Adrian Cenni - Stuntman & Professional Short Course Racer

Adrian Cenni is much more than a professional Offroad Racer.  We are still astonished by the life he has created and person he still strives to be.  He does massive stunts that push industries forward, he is heavily invested in progressing the human body and mind, and the best part of it all is he helps others!  This all not even touching the surface of his business acumen.  Lets just say his new stunts of falling from space in a rubber ball and a 720 (double) barrel roll in an offroad truck will blow our minds when he achieves them!

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All right, who's ready for The Dirt Life Show? Yeah, buddy. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Thank you so much for joining us on this fabulous Monday night. We are Episode 75 of The Dirt Life Show Tonight we have a fantastic show for you guys. As you can tell we are in a special location in Temecula, California. Our featured guest tonight is none other than stunt man. extraordinare professional short course racer, man he's even done some crazy stuff like surfing in the sky. We can't wait to get into his backstory coming all the way from South Africa. Welcome Adrian Chani to the show. Oh, thank you. That was a really nice intro. Hey, man, I do my homework. Right. Yeah. So thank you very much for having us at your at your shop here in Temecula, dude, it's cool. Yeah, thanks for coming out. It's very nice to have you be able to see a little bit about the truck. And what's going on here. Yeah, some behind the scenes action. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Like you guys always see. I mean, I say it on the show all the time. It's really cool when you get to see the guys at the races and you get to see him racing and stuff. But there's really no way for us to actually get behind the scenes and really get to know all these drivers and all these professional athletes. And tonight, we got to stop man with us. So it's going to be really cool to get into Adrian story. I can't wait to break loose some of these stories with you guys. Let's get through some of the intermediary stuff. We're gonna just thank our sponsors, we Well, actually, you know, we're gonna thank you guys first, you guys are the awesome ones that are supporting us. We already got a bunch people logging in, we definitely want you guys to comment in and ask questions, some of these subjects are going to get really entertaining. So anytime you guys have any questions, or even comments about it, tell him he's freaking nuts. You can comment in and let us know how you guys feel about some of the stuff that he's done. Please, always join us anytime you want on iTunes, Spotify, any of the podcast networks, we're available and any of those, even on new Amazon stuff. You can check us out anytime. When you're watching the live shows you can always comment in and hang out with us. We really, really enjoy it. And you can always check us out on social media at The Dirt Life Show on Instagram is the best way to get ahold of us. A few people actually messaged in and had some comments and questions for Adrian. So we're going to get to those tonight as well. But thank you very much to our sponsors. Thank you to the guys over at KMC wheels. They've had our back since day one. And they've been doing a very, very good job supporting this show and given us access to some of the awesome stuff that they have in Southern California. So it's really helping us grow. So thank you to Ryan and everybody over at KMC wheels. Thank you very much to Travis Zoolander and all the guys as well under racing products. Those guys make fantastic UTV products. One of the things we're going to talk about is Adrian is actually going to be racing, UTV, and he's going to probably need to use some awesome products similar to the ones that Zoolander makes. And we like to thank shock therapy, those guys are doing an amazing job with all your tuning needs. You can use the code Dirt Life Show at shock therapist calm. And man, you save a whole bunch of money steering racks they make, you know sway bar links, anything that they make, you can save a whole bunch of money, tell them a dirt life sent you. Thank you very much the guys over solder. Well, they've been behind us since day one, make a fantastic offroad repair kit that you can repair your race or your ride anytime by bonding metal on the trail. Thank you very much to the guys over at cryo heat. If you didn't see our social media last week, we went over to Josh's shop in Oceanside, California had a whole bunch of fun with those guys seeing all of the machines that they use and all the processes that they use to lighten up players res and pro XP transmissions and all kinds of rad stuff. And it's it's super cool all the stuff that they have going on there. And last but not least, very not least on FX tires. Thank you very much to those guys. We're gonna have Ryan guidance from EF x joining us next week on the show for the guys who have done in destroy. So we're gonna have a little bit of off racing racing break weekend or Monday show. So yeah, thank you guys very much. We'll see if we can get some of these comments coming in real quick. We're gonna do a little refresh. And we'll get into Adrian story a little bit. All the way from South Africa. Hmm. When did you move the United States? When I was 14, I came with my parents. Oh, they moved out here. Yeah, yeah, whole family moves. small family, just me, my brother, my parents. And there's two boys in the family at the time. And in Africa. There was in South Africa, there was mandatory army service. And there was a war going on too. And so my father, he's Italian. So he looked at the situation. He's like, well, I don't want my son's going to war. right and right. So it was gonna be Australia, or America. And we ended up coming to America. Wonder what the reason was? Because Australia is a nice place to Australia is really nice, good surf. And in South Africa is really good surfing tunes. Yeah. It was a was a tough call, but worked out. Well. Yeah, absolutely. That's pretty cool that you ended Update down here to it's always funny like, you and I talked a little bit about it a few days ago, what life throws at you, right and the way that your path like I'm a huge believer in the butterfly effect, every decision leads to another decision or equal and opposite reaction kind of thing. And it's cool to see that all of those decisions and all those things that happen in your life led you to the off road scene. And even more so some of the stunts and things like that, that we'll talk about. Yeah. I'm a believer in that you actually plan your life before you have it. Really? Yes. And that you choose your parents actually, really? Yeah. Well, I like this. Yeah. And I don't know. That's, it's, it's weird to think about you, especially some people think, oh, there's no way in hell, I would have chosen my parents or whatever. Nope. As a matter of fact, I'll take I'll take a bet with anybody. We'll see if I'm right. But I'm pretty sure we we get to pick our life before the planet. I think that's a really good way to look at things actually. Yeah, no, it's kind of the signs are pointing in that direction. And, and in talking about ending up, racing, I crammed in racing in the Midwest, in off road racing. And I was in high school there. And I had no clue about in that area in the north woods area. As in Wausau, Wisconsin going high school. Yeah. And then I left and I went to Europe to try to get to fall in one car racing came close. And then back to America was in New York. And then all roads lead back to Wisconsin for me. There I am back in Iowa. And Wisconsin. That's kind of a funny story. Yeah. So it's interesting, a very circuitous way of always coming back to the same spot. I don't think very many people can say roads always lead back to Wisconsin. That is pretty neat, though. So when you're, like thinking about doing all this stuff, I mean, growing up in South Africa and being 14, you've got a little bit of understanding how life works by that time, right? It's a pretty big move to move to the United States. Are you thinking, Oh, sweet, like, I can't wait to get over there? Or are you thinking, Wow, my life's turning upside down? It's a combination. You know, there's, there's the things that you're leaving behind that, you know, and, and you'll see, you know, it was a really good life. And so you're not, you know, but I definitely did not have a nervousness about it. It was interesting, something new. And, you know, the states do a really good job of actually promoting themselves around the world. But through that, you know, basically, Hollywood, it's kind of, so it does give you an insight into what you're going to be walking into, even though it's not true, it's at least some type of an insight well, and plus, you can just look at the differences between where you live and what their Hollywood is showing you, I guess, right? And yeah, I mean, very often, you see people who do move, and they do very well. And I think a big part of what why they do well is being able to come from one culture into another, and then being able to see the differences and expand your horizons and in try to adapt into the new one that you're coming into. Yeah, I can agree with that and attest to that, too. It's like, what they always say that the people that hustle hard are the people that grew up with nothing kind of thing. So I can totally see that. Well, and you're a little bit different, though, because you're thinking that it's planned, right? You always planned it ahead. Well, I mean, I think that, that there's like an outline. Yeah, and I don't think all the little details are there. But I think there's like certain Crossroads that you're going to be okay, you're going to be doing this, you're gonna be doing that you're going to be doing this and how you get there is is up for grabs, and there is of course rail. But for the most part, you kind of try to have an outline and, and stick to it as best you can. and end up at those certain points, when sometimes life throws you in like a really crazy direction to. That's the reason I'm kind of talking about this, though, is I want to at least lay a groundwork of understanding how your brain works, because one of our best mutual buddies Alex trailer, I had a phone call with him earlier this week. And he gave me a couple little insights and backstory on some of the ways, different ways that you think personally, similar to what we're talking about, and some of the different ways that you act and the execution that you have towards your life. And I think it's phenomenal. Like I'm a huge believer in making the life that you want living life to the fullest. Right. And I think that you are a believer in that but you're also really big on executing on those things. Yeah, doing actually following through on what you say you're going to do is extremely important. I don't know if I had to sum up the, the way that I think the ideal life is lived in To try to not have fear, be a part of your decision making process right to the, to the extent possible that you can eliminate fear out of your decision making process, I think that then you're going to, you're going to really be closer to the goals that you are supposed to be doing in your life. Absolutely. So and then, well, we can bring it up now. You guys can see over my right shoulder here on probably on the left side of your guys's screen, we got the the wild man logo on the toolbox. cart right here. But that brings us to a an understanding of who you are and living your life to the fullest and executing like you, like you say, one of the topics that Alex trailer told me to talk to you about was how do I want to say this? You do stunts, right? But you have to be prepared like stunt men aren't just guys sitting on the couch eating potato chips, right? You have to be physically fit. You have to be mentally strong, you have to be like you said no fear almost. There's there's lots of factors and this actually running a company which have run successful companies. Racing, and then also doing stunts is a lot about bringing several factors together, there's risk analysis, or risk assessment, figuring out what are the odds of something happening? What else is there? Yeah, like if you're planning a one year plan to grow the business to a certain level? Well, there's a risk analysis that goes with that you have to be on these different milestones and execution points to be able to make it happen, right? It sounds like you got you would do the same type of structure for any stunt that you're doing. Yeah, build the team. is another thing. So surround yourself with good people. Same thing in a business, same thing in a stunt. And now, like I don't even know if stunts the right word. So working on this thing is probably going to be the biggest thing I'm going to do from a stunt ish kind of perspective, which is new, freefall technology falling out of the sky, bouncing off the ground without use of a parachute. Yeah. That's not really a stunt. That's like, it's new technology. But there is a stunt component into it. There's a lot of development. There's Yeah, this innovation, invention. It's very much like a race team. So that's one of the subjects that I wanted to actually talk about, why don't we just get into it now is, is a so you kind of just briefed on it, but maybe give us a little bit more detail. The basis of it is you're going to be falling from space. In a bubble. Yeah. Pretty much human in a beach ball. That's the concept. Yeah. So whack a beach ball up in the air, and it comes down slower than a basketball. Yep. So now if you just scale that up, and then put yourself in the middle, that's a very rudimentary way of saying it, because it's not an actually, it's not a pressurized bubble. But it's, that's kind of the idea is that the, the whole, I mean, the air that you're gonna have to push around the bubble right in to slow you down enough that you can land safely on the ground. That's the basic concept. That is phenomenal to think about it at that basic level. Because there's so much more that goes behind that there's testing there's like you said, research and development. There's the stunt component of it, because it's very dangerous to do something like that. I mean, it's probably dangerous to even test it. Like how do you even go about that? Yeah, I mean, you start like the, the first the first one we started with was the board a Zoghbi which you can buy those like this the the I think it's, I don't know, when they're messing around going down the hills. Exactly. rolling down the hills and like a plastic bubble. Yeah. So we got bought that, hoisted up from on a tree and dropped it. And with the, you know, me inside or somebody inside it, and, and in a burst and you hit, you know, went through and hit the ground underneath you, and then you're like, Okay, what can we do to make the improve on that? And so basically, you just start, it's just trial and error. Yeah. If you if you just start at the low level, and yet, like Alex said, incremental steps. Yeah, yeah, it's this is basically baby steps each step of the way. You make it sound so simple, though, like, I know that well, first of all me like I would be skeptical of jumping or dropping in one of those balls onto the ground, like, well, how hard Am I gonna hit? Am I gonna break my arm? My legs, like what's gonna happen? And there's so many steps to be able to get through that process before you get into space. Yeah, there's, I mean, it's yours to do it, especially when you do it kind of like lowbrow the way I do it. Like I'm not, you know, claiming to be some crazy scientists. But at the end of the day, it's a it's definitely an engineering feat. Yeah, rather than attempt to figure out equations, I rather would rather get in Something, go and bounce off the ground. See how much it hurts and what we can do. I think that's a different statement beyond your life. Like that's something that a model that you live by wholeheartedly. It's pretty cool though. Like there's a lot of people that would like to live their life like that, but unfortunately they can't execute on it. So kudos to you for doing that. We had a couple comments come in Dave from core core and Lucas staging said hey, Misha, Adrian, do you remember? Hey, Yes, I do. Hey, Dave, how you doing? So? Good guy. Jesse. Just seal Jesse says hello, Lana. Hi, from rim rock. JT corn. Unbelievable footage of Adrian's barrel roll jump on? Yeah. Then to land it? Yes. It's totally insane. Great job, Mandy, you guys have no idea how much work went into that we're going to talk about it a little later. We may even get Adrian to talk a little bit more about some of the stuff that he has planned in the future, too. Let's just get that out of the way. Actually, let's start talking about the barrel roll. And then we'll go back to kind of some of the stuff that we're talking about right now. So when you do something like Prepare to be dropped from space, or prepared to be execute something like a barrel roll that nobody's ever done? What's the process of going through the short course racing, understanding how a vehicle works? And then, I mean, that's years of racing, and then all of a sudden, you just want to do this stuff? Yeah, it's, it's definitely the barrel was an outgrowth of the potential of what the pro for I mean, an off road vehicle can do. And it's just, you know, it's it's something that's, that's inside me, wanting to showcase what these trucks can really do. And I've read a very often feel like we don't get to showcase what the what they can do, they can really take so much abuse and, and bounce right back. And it's so I just sit there and dream at night about you know, what we can do. And it started I was supposed to be on the david letterman show. This is great when I got into off road racing. And I was supposed to jump on a dirt ramp and jump up on the back of a bus, outside the david letterman show, and roll down these buses on unapprove for and then goose off over a taxi and land on the ground drive away. And then there was all set to go. And then Dale Earnhardt. He died. And so then they they said now that the you know, the standard, yeah, but right here, right from the get go, or the first off the The first time I got into these offroad vehicles, all I wanted to do was just try and showcase what they can do. Because they're just so exciting. And so fun. It's the extra dimension of flying through the air at landing in a controlled fashion and being able to, you know, accelerate away. It's just, it's, it just needs to be, I don't know, showcase a little bit more. Yeah, just just whatever we can do to, to really have fun with it, and get it to get it out there. I really liked that, because we talked to a lot of people that do dirt, bike racing and stuff. And back in the late 90s, early 2000s. You know, people were riding their bikes, and they were going around the track and they were having a good time. And until one person showed that you could do a start on your bike, you could take your hands off, you could take your legs off, you could flip on them. It wasn't even known that freestyle motocross could exist. Same with the guys in monster truck like toddla Duke like, until they started pushing those boundaries and limits and testing the way that the those vehicles, well, I guess defied the laws of physics, just like you did. It wasn't known. Right. And so this is really interesting to me to be able to understand that you're starting to do that with an off road truck. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's all it all came from racing. So going racing cars, racing, like when I'm sitting on the on the start line. Like let's say Crandon, for example, sitting on the start line, just looking at that quarter mile landrus start, everybody's lined up next to you. And it's going to do a standing start, right, just so thankful to be there, just like wow, this is such a privilege to get to do this. And I mean, all these there's so much work and effort went into getting to this point for this team, and then the next team next year, and then now we're just going to add so much money, and we're just gonna roll the dice and go and have fun with them. And then it's so it's like, it's really exhilarating. It's really a privilege. And and then what, what can we do to then continue that, and I've got, you know, these pro four trucks sitting around here that because we have to build a new one or, or do things like, you know, to continue to grow on the racing side, and it's like, wow, this is we spent just, I don't know, a gazillion dollars on this thing. It's just sitting right here and They can learn so much. So that's that's started sparking my interest as to what I can do. I mean, I want to take this thing and bounce off the wall and land back on the wheels, I want to do, you know, front flips, back flips, all this stuff. It's pretty crazy. And for anybody that doesn't know what we're talking about the audio version of the podcast, you may not be able to see the video, but you can always come back and look at it. We'll play a short little 22nd clip here. And then maybe you can give us a little bit of an understanding of what you were thinking at this time. This is the barrel roll live in Baja. Thank you to the race desert for doing this. So you go under the bridge and you come over the ramp. Yep. Okay, so we were because you're actually the ramp. The ramp is actually two ramps, so you actually take off on a forefoot, pretty steep four foot high ramp, okay. And then you get airborne for a split second, then you hit a just a very narrow, eight foot tall kicker ramp. And that kind of upsets the vehicle, your pivot, yeah, the the the driver's front wheel hits this kicker ramp, and everything pivots off of that one kicker, that one kicker ramp got it. So it doesn't seem like it would be that difficult? Well, it's actually very difficult because it's, well, you just know, right off the bat, you know, the beating you're about to take so that's obviously upsetting. And, and then you're trying to line up on the ramp and you're approaching it about 50 miles an hour. And the ramp, the first ramp, which is the the just a regular jump ramp, let's say is is not that hard to hit, even though it's it's barely a couple inches wider than the tire. So you've got to you again, you lined up on you're not centrally lined up, you lined up, like as a driver on the driver side. So you got to come up at 50 miles an hour, and be within a couple of inches to make sure that you go up the ramp, because when you hit the kicker ramp, the kicker ramps only, I don't know, 1618 inches wide, and you've got to at 50 miles an hour, the air, you're airborne flying. And you've got to make sure that your front tire can hit that narrow read. So even if you're off by an eighth of an inch, since you're not in the center of the truck, any reference off by an eighth of an inch you can be two inches off by the time you hit the end of that ramp. Yeah. So I mean, it's it's, it's I don't think it's that tight. But it's certainly tight. I would say within a couple inches. Yeah, you got to be within a couple inches. Otherwise, you're screwed, man, that's crazy. And so this and there's two main variables, the main variables, you got to line up and hit that kicker ramp where it needs to be hit. And then the speeds got to be at at a certain speed. So we thought okay, let's take the speed out of it. Because I can't sit there and look at the speedometer. What's going on. So we put a GPS auto speed thing in it. And unfortunately, it was run off of GPS satellite GPS. So when we went under the bridge, it actually lost signal. Also you had to add so we were watching that video. So the truck was actually slowing down. And it actually under rotated on that particular jump. Wow. And did it slow down and then just reversed speed when it came back up? No, no, it just basically lost signal and started slowing down but it had enough momentum because the the ramp was started it kind of just started underneath the bridge. Right? So basically the roll up the ramp was it was decelerating. Wow, that's crazy. And we all know like coming from off road and stuff whenever you're decelerating or accelerating off the top of a jump. It makes the car go up or down. Yeah, so in this case, I don't know if it was luck or something because the the spin actually came out pretty good. It did it look good. I mean, it looked like the landing was really hard. I don't know how your neck freakin survived that but yeah, so you know a lot of I don't there's very few videos out there where we actually show the car because it's totally amateur hour at the Apollo and you get you get completely knocked out or partially knocked out every time that's been knocked out. I mean, like lights out for you know, I don't know if it's a one second. I don't know what it is, but it's lights out and then lights back on. And then you know, try to avoid hitting people. That's crazy. Yeah. So what was funny was everybody was moving down and they were in the you know, the barriers were there and we'd like get back at back and push everybody back. Everybody kept moving down thinking like I've got this completely in hand. I can just land on a handkerchief of of ground. Everything's fine. It's totally amateur hour out there. I mean, like it could land and squirt. in any direction at any time, that's the that's what pushes these industries forward, though, is not knowing and being able to push those boundaries. Yeah, thank goodness, you know, everything went well. And it didn't, it didn't, you know, squirt out of the different direction. I mean, we kept telling everybody you got to get back, you got to get back and everybody just you know, it was there was a lot of excitement. And it's it is super fun, you know, to witness something like that. So it's understandable that it kept us pushing forward. But there were definitely giving, putting away too much confidence in. Yeah, the ability to land and just go dead straight. I guess I see all these different things online, and they think everything just okay, right. It's phenomenal that you did that. Um, so let's take a step back real quick and kind of talk about what, what gave you this drive to be to move forward so much. I mean, you move to the United States, that's obviously a huge move in your life. And then, you know, you're you probably have to go through the education system and, you know, learn those types of things. But you know, when you're a young kid or a teenager, are you thinking about all of these things? And how much drive you have and going into the rest of your life like that? No, no, I think I think being married off to being married, you know, smashing my head on the ground is as easy. So are you married people out there? Just know that you could be doing stocks instead of getting an argument? No, I think my my brother, he said at best is that I definitely seem to be about the thrill of the ride. I gotcha. And so yeah, I think the brother older or younger, older brother. Yeah. So when I was when I was young, I lived on a very steep hill, and did not have a motorized vehicle. My parents would not let me have one. I think my brother, he, he bought a stolen motorcycle. And so I got to ride that once or twice. And then oh, but now. So I had a basically a ball racer, which is the steel wheel Go Kart, and it was very steep hill, and I just, that's all I had to entertain myself was to go up and down that and just ride. And it took a couple years, but I figured out how to get to be able to go all the way from the top and make it to the bottom without crashing. And that was probably where it got ingrained into me to just be about that thrill. Yeah. And, and, and problem solving, you know, how do you take a middle wheel and slide it around on asphalt and have it not slide off on a steep hill because you have to make a turn. So you've got to set up an in in slide and then your weight distribution, and then maybe scrub some speed by kicking your ass out and scrubbing. speedling bouncing back saying that all fundamentals of off road without the jumping pile and that's, you know, that's the only bomber was the no jumping part. But yeah, oh, hey, so we got we got some guys jumping in or chime in on the comments that are they're definitely different subjects. So we'll jump around a little bit here, but JD Corian said, speaking of Crandon turn one. How's the Congress? How did the conversation go with Scott Douglas after he blamed you for sending him over the wall? I don't know if you can control turn one and grand in that. Because there's so much commotion in that turn. So one of the things that maybe from either having so many crashes or from just having crap memory is I have no recollection of that at all. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Well, so maybe, yeah, maybe Jason's got over the wall. Yeah, maybe JD you can ask God about that one. Steve. What's up, George? Hey, Steve, how you doing? Man? Good to see you from Tucson Arizona. or excuse me, Phoenix, Arizona. What's up fellas? taco time? Yeah, we didn't get any tacos today. But maybe we'll try to get some tomorrow, Tyrone. Alright, so it's still so phenomenal for me to think about the way that you're? Well, first of all, the way that you're living your life and the I don't even know how to say it the balls that you have to be able to go and pull off stuff like this. Most of us, myself included, actually. People always tell me I'm crazy for going out and getting hurt all the time. I don't like getting hurt. First of all, I'm sure you don't know. But I do love that thrill of the moment and the thrill of the ride like I can't tell you how much those adrenaline things make me happy you know, put them put a smile on my face. So it seems like when you were little it kind of started building up and making making you understand that those things did make you happy. Yes. If I had to analyze myself I would say it's it there's a combination of a few things going on. One is what I've already said horrible memory. So you know if if we forget your mistakes and move forward, you forget you forget all the times you smashed yourself up and so that's that's a big, that's a big help actually because that if you have a good memory of that, that'll help hold you back. Having being in really good shape, like being able to just smash yourself and bounce back. So that's something that that's that I've been able to do, which is not easy today. Most people can't do it. But somehow I've been able to, and I've become fixated on, you know, figuring out how to be able to do that, because I so definitely hold that thought, because that's the next subject we're going to get into. But I think that one of the things that I want to take from what you just said is being able to forget what just happened is one of the best traits of any racer, you can't ever dwell on the last corner, right? You have to think about the next corner and that's literally the way you're living your life. Yeah, yeah. So it's this The upside is that you can be successful because you forgot that you've tried something already 10 times and failed. So you you succeed on the 11th time. So that's the that's the upside The downside is you know you have fantastic things that happen. And you have no memory of the fantastic that you wish you had remember that they happen because they were so great. Can't remember squat. Rely on like video. Hey, looks so we just got David actually posted the video. I don't know if these guys realized that we may or may not have been breezing over that question just a little bit, but we can go back in the comments and look at it. Talk about it later. That's I can see right. That's the video the crash at Chula Vista, right. Core Chula Vista. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's not the good. That's not the one he was talking about from Canon. So what was this one? That one? Actually, I'm pretty sure I died on that one. I came back. Really? Yeah. Because I remember. I mean, I can only from the video footage. Like I actually remember hugging, like the hood came into the cab somehow. And I like put my hand over it and hugged it. And I don't remember any of that stuff. But that was a really hard hit. So if you're looking at hits, like what's a bet, you know, like, Oh, is that a really bad hit? As opposed to going to be okay. If there's a, like a rapid change in direction. That's bad. Yeah, absolutely. If there's a sudden stop. Yeah, that's really bad. So if there is, if you rolling and dissipating energy, then that's, that's better than Yes. Chances are that that better that somebody is going to be okay. Yeah, they don't ever teach you to they teach you to stop, drop and roll and not stop and put your head around. Yeah, so that I can just see from that. That's the that Chula Vista it landed right? Right above my head, like upside down and a dug. And then I went straight up. And I so I think I remember that. Well, you don't remember, the only thing what I do remember was being crumpled up into a small ball, and then drop kicked, like down a hallway. And then I just remember struggling struggling struggling to try to get back to the light. Oh, really. That's what I remember. I was like, wow, we're gonna beam this kick this fall down the road. You know what, I hope that some people can actually leave comments about this stuff, because I want to have lunch with you, or or spend some time with you one of these days about what they call near death experiences, or whatever they're called are. Because I have some crazy stuff. And that's happened in my life as well. So it's hard for other people to be able to understand those things if they have been through a situation like what you've been through. So it'd be phenomenal to be able to have an open conversation with you about that stuff. And if you guys out there in internet world, if you guys would like to hear some of that stuff, please comment in and let us know. If you guys are interested in talking about that. I think we'll continue on the questions and things like that, though. One of the things that that I always thought was phenomenal. The barrel roll, I mean, everybody saw the video that we just watched. He went down to where was it at and, and Sonata and Sonata. Okay, there was at the at the wash at the start of the Baja 1000. And so that's I think the first time that most people actually saw this not being performed. But there was a lot going into it right? Yeah, I'd actually. And then from then I picked up with the promoted on to Mexico, and I've done it again, in stadiums in front of like, oh, wait real? Yeah, like 40 50,000 people. And that's tough to drop right into a stadium and and then just hit your marks and, you know, with low lighting and like I said, one jump into another and not much leeway for anything. And so it's it. Yeah, so I've done I've done it multiple times. And to get to the point of doing it in add in sanada in front of that crowd that we saw. I'd probably done it into a practice pit. And then and then to ground that to ground at least twice better than to practice at least a couple dozen times. And you're saying that every time even Well, I maybe even maybe some of these ones in the stadiums were a little less jarring or each one was Just as jarring as the first. Yeah, in the stadiums, they started putting down CSUN to slow the vehicle down because there was no basically no running. Stop. Yeah. But it actually ended up providing a ton of cushioning. So that was really nice for that for that from that aspect. But yeah, doing it into a practice pit. That was another innovation. Because nobody had ever tried a vehicle practice pit. Yeah, like a foam pit or whatever it's called. A can't be a foam pit in this. In this case, it's a tire pit. Okay, gotcha. If it's a foam pad, I mean, it's a 440 500 pound vehicle, right? It's gonna go right through, it's gonna go way down, right. So it's, it's not, it's not super feasible. So tires, on the other hand, actually, does work. It was it was very strange. And we didn't know if it was going to work until we tried it. And the only way to try this to get it and going in, you know, try it, man, another innovation but a ballsy one, that's for sure. We had George Egan comment in saying he had a near death experience once but it was nowhere near as cool. He just had his appendix burst for three days. Hey, man, you gotta watch out for those things. Appendix is are gnarly. And Cody Sanders. Hey, buddy. So I still think it's phenomenal that you're doing all this stuff. I would like to go back a little bit to what you're talking about, about living life to the fullest staying fit to make sure that you can live life to the fullest when you go out and execute these types of stunts. What's like a, I don't know, a week in the life of Adrian, like, are you eating healthy? Are you working out all the time? Are you a cardio guy? Like, what's that kind of stuff? Yeah, I mean, all those things, it's probably the the idea of if, when you exercising, it's about intensity, like just you don't have to exercise that long. It just got to be intense, right. So I think and that's, you know, what, I think what your body really needs is intensity. With regards to lifting weights. I really like doing the the leg sled where you can put a ton of weight on the sled. And then that kind of mimics when you have a crash in a car and you've got your seat belts. Oh, cuz you're pushing yourself? Well, there's no what happens is you hunker down, like I get the total death grip on the steering wheel. And I've actually ripped steering wheels completely off there, the mount Yeah, metal steer just total like tissue paper from from the hits. Anyway, I've got this death grip going. But you just you, you all the wind gets knocked out of you, right? You're holding on. And then it's just like impact in pressure in the same like, if you if you can put like, let's say you can put 10 plates on the legs, let's that's like 1000 pounds, and then try to push that with your legs. And if you can do that, that's a lot of pressure on your body and the body free sounds like almost like, wow, I really need to be ready the next time that's gonna happen. Yep. So again, it's like in so when it comes to weights, it's like the weight. If you put the heavy weight on, then that's simulates intensity. If it's cardio, it's intense. It's like basically it comes down to intensity with with regards to food. I just very picky. Like I'll eat junk and everything else. But it's just, I just always look for good quality. Yeah. So I don't know if that's really helpful. Like, I don't count calories on it, any of that stuff. It's just just very picky. And just everything should look feel taste smell, right the way that you want. Yeah, yeah, the way the way that it should be. And that's, you know, everything should be ripe, not unripe. I mean, just just the little things. I guess that just Well, I think that I think that goes pretty far. I mean, like, if you're talking about picking a berry from a tree, you're not going to pick the shitty one. Right? You're going to pick the good one. Always. Yeah. So yeah. Man, it's so cool for me to be able to think, think about the way that you live because I do a very similar thing. I mean, I'm not quite as intense on the workouts and stuff like that I really enjoy cardio. That's why I do cardio. And I like being out for long durations of time. So I rode cycle for, I don't know, let's just say 50 miles or whatever it is. And I'll have a fantastic time doing all that stuff, but hearing you and the way that your life goes. And the intensity portion of it. I don't have that intensity. But there's been a couple times that that intensity would have helped me a ton in some of these accidents or some of these balls that I've taken. Yeah, I was. I was wondering when I was hearing a little bit about your story that you've you've taken like multiple severe hits. Yeah, unfortunately, that go and I think, you know, when I met, I was like, I wonder if that's like if you had, you know, kind of that was your mo in this in your life is that you know, like severe bodily trauma and then how you you know, incorporate that to Basically like to learn what you're going to learn or to push you forward or to be your inspiration or to be your motivation or whatever. Yeah, if we're talking about, like how you live your life and planning our lives ahead of schedule ahead of time, I don't know that some of these things were planned, I think maybe some of it was laid out for me, I just didn't know what was coming. And then, you know, like, you have to adapt. And I mean, like, we could go on and on for the way that both of us live our lives, but I've had to pivot my life and change it. Four or five times, and we're not talking about little ones, like changing a job, we're talking about completely changing and uplifting your whole life, right. And those things have made me who I am today. In fact, they made this podcast, one of the injuries made it so I couldn't see or hear anything, all I could do was talk. And so I thought, Well, okay, I can't do my current job. Now, all I'm going to be able to do is talk, maybe I'll be able to hear one of these days. So I just figured out how to do a podcast and talk. So it's, it's one of those things. And that's inspirational to hear. I mean, like, think about that for a second all, you know, what about, like, if the listener is like, what about us? The only thing we can do is talk? Yeah, like, what do we do? Are we gonna call up and a ball and say, fuck it? Or are we going to I tell you what I almost did, it was fucking scary. I gotta leave it living living blind and deaf. I mean, and I'm not saying that no, people do this because other people do. But they're more of a man or woman than I am. Because I was freaking out living inside my own body. I was rated like, just go bananas, like I couldn't like, almost couldn't handle it. Like it was to the point that I was going to just burst from the inside kind of thing. So this was a very good outlet for me, similar to the way that doing the stunts and doing these things is an outlet for you. And getting the adrenaline and these these types of blood pumping types of things is it's so interesting to me that you're keeping up your body and you're training it to do these specific things. Yeah, it's, it's, it's really it's so funny. Like, I'm sitting, spend all my time trying to take care of myself, so that I can just go and basically smash me like, and then try to bounce back. It's freaking crazy, man. Yeah, take care of yourself. Really good. So then you can go f yourself up. Yeah, exactly. Christy. Hi, Christy. She said, Hey, Georgia. Happy Monday. Dirt Life Show. Yeah, it's awesome. Monday today. Yeah, Jeff said George's workout is eating tacos. Hey, I really do enjoy tacos. I love tacos, too. So what's some of the best tacos that you had? Because you've been on Ensenada a few times? Yeah, there's I don't know what the name of the place is. run down by the sterile Beach Hotel. Right before you make the right yeah, to go down the road. So off the like we go by the airport. And then there's a there's you make a right hand turn to go down the long roads and not the ones we make the left right at the sterile beach. But yeah, from the under there on the main road. I like those tacos right there. Oh, I think I know which one you're talking about. It doesn't have a rabbit on exact. Yeah, yeah, that place that one's super good. So Cal tacos right over here in Marietta or the Temecula, I'm not sure they do a pretty good job too. Well, that's where we're going, we're gonna have this heart to heart live conversation. So I could I could literally talk about this for days. But I know that we want to talk a little bit more about motor sports and the things that you that you're going to be doing before we get into the full short course racing stuff. Because that's very interesting. Now that it started the season starting up again, you also did something that I really didn't know that you even had any ambition to do. And you went and you got hung by a helicopter. And you basically surfed through the clouds. So how does that even come about? Yeah, so I had a buddy who he was doing viral videos, and we connected on a viral video can't remember what it was. And then he, he had the idea of surfing in the clouds, and I thought was a good idea. Basically, they it's kind of a like a dream piece where you're thinking, Okay, can we make it so that the clouds actually have some density to them? Right, and we can simulate it. And as it turns out, putting together so putting together that viral video is probably as hard as trying to go out and win a pro for race. Yeah, I can only imagine like, how do you even freakin film that because you need three helicopters. We only had two. And you need actually three helicopters because it's it's kind of ridic but and then you need you need access to like really thick clouds. We we put out that viral piece. We were still probably a good I don't know, two three weeks away of constant filming before we would have had the piece that we you know the video that we really, yeah, enough content to be able to put it together. Yeah, it's better. So we put it together. We ran out of money because it's so expensive to have, you know to cancel Have a crew and helicopters ready. And then the clouds are too high. The clouds are too thin clouds over there, the clouds are not over here. I mean, it's just there was a lot of stops and starts. So that's an issue. But it's really it's, it's mostly a almost like a cinematic piece where you need a director's helicopter. And then the director's helicopter is going to tell the helicopter what level to go up and down as it basically goes on the edge of a cloud. So the the the camera shot has to be on the edge of the cloud. And the between the camera and the helicopter, they are going to actually doing the work similar to similar to doing a barrel stand where you the driver, all the work you do is actually on the barrel is done before the stunt. So when you're doing the stunt, you should just be along for the ride. But you know, obviously that doesn't always happen. The same thing with up in this hit in the helicopter, the the rider on the snowboard that's snowboarding in the clouds you Yeah, that that you just really along for the ride. And it's really much more of a director with the relationship the director helicopter telling the pilot in the tow helicopter Up, down, up down, right and left, right kind of Yeah, and then telling the camera operator or Yeah, or the camp, the shooting the shooting helicopter go up and down because it's what you're trying to do is make it so that the the the stunt guy is on the edge of the cloud. And it's really hard to do super hot and and think about it cuz once you're in the clouds, the helicopters, they don't know where each other are plus is you as the one yeah, it's not like snowboarding where you're actually cutting something, you're just even though there's a cloud there, you're not doing anything with that cloud, you're not touching it, you're just moving against you trying to be on the edge of it to be right, you actually are trying to be on the edge. And the helicopters have to be traveling at a certain speed. Otherwise, it doesn't look at all like you're moving. So you're going to be going you know, 7080 miles an hour, and you're in cloud cover so you can't see each other. So you need you need multiple helicopters. You need one helicopter to say something. Because the problem is, is that it sounds sketchy. It's very sketchy because also as you as the stunt guy, you're like at least couple 100 feet on a wire below the helicopter and behind because you're going 70 miles an hour. So you're getting blown. You know, let's say at least one helicopter lands back of the back of the tail rotor of the helicopter. So the pilot has no clue where you were at he's gonna have to be told by somebody what's going on the film helicopters got to know where you're at. Otherwise, they get there rotors are going to come up and chop you and chop your feed off. So it's it's it needs you need three helicopters. It needs a lot of money. It's a bitch. Yeah. But the crazy the idea of it is is is really is cool. And the if we if we would have got the shot that we wanted or would have looked amazing, we got it we got a decent shot. Um, you know, it was our taste something interesting about being up there. So you actually do interact with the clouds. And the thing that that's really interesting is that the clouds you can actually taste the clouds really because now you can taste them and you up. Wow, that's somebody burning garbage. that's a that's a garbage cloud. So whatever it grabbed from the atmosphere, so whatever happened, whatever created that that cloud you can you can taste it like another one you like if you buy the ocean. Oh, that came from the ocean. You can actually taste a little bit. I want to try to send positive vibes on my way up in the clouds like that of tacos. Okay. We get some good stuff up there. did what was the the things that got triggered in your head when you're up there? Did you get a cinnamon roll? Do you get trashed? Did he get a tire? I was it was hot. I was I was cold. I was he because you because you Yeah, you're probably freezing up there, you're freezing. And then plus you're hanging basically from your crotch. So it's like it's super uncomfortable. And, and then you know, to get to the clouds is very often like a 15 or 20 minute helicopter ride at Oh, and you're on the wire the whole time you're on the way you're on the wire, and then you're doing 100 miles an hour. your crotch and a snowboard attached to your foot. So by the time you get to feel good, you're so spent and then they like okay action and then you're going to start carving and, and actually bringing that snowboard using incredible like superhuman guts strengths to be able to to be able to straighten out because you have to have push that snowboard up against the wind. That's again goes back to your foundation of intensity training. Because most most people when they get cold, their muscles just don't work, right. They're not the same. So you have to be able to push through that. So it's super cool that you can do that. Hey, we had a comment come in from loriana Sergeant she said How has your near death experiences changed your life? Or maybe it hasn't? I don't know. No, I definitely has like I've definitely I'm interested in why we're here. what's what's our purpose? And so those near near death experiences or death experiences like, I'm pretty sure I had two Death Experiences the rest I would say, a your near death. I mean, I've been knocked out for many minutes. And several times and I would consider those just, you know, whatever. But I'm talking about a couple experiences where like, I remember I got drowned. And then I just remember being brought back, right? I think that's, that would be like, Yeah, when you're past the point of no return kind of thing. Yeah. Like when you know, then then you pop back. And then you remember to, and the which is different from like, you get knocked out, and then you don't necessarily remember it, you don't remember squat. Or like in the other case, where I got crumpled up and kicked down a hallway, then had to fight to come back. Yeah, those are some pretty vivid memories, right, like, thinking about that, like, of course, it has a little bit of relevance to the situation that happened to you during that time. But it's a it's crazy for me to think about that. Because I don't usually have people that I can talk to about these near death experiences that I've had either. And it's crazy, because I don't know, nobody understands it, right? Yeah, I think so. If you're ever in what I take from it is not necessarily the experiences itself, but the the peripheral things that happen during it, that make you feel like, Oh, I'm peeking behind the curtains, that's kind of like what I look for. And then I use that to, to maybe make some decisions going forward. And certainly, you know, tried to not be fearful. So that that's, that's also part of it is that there is going to be something once we leave this in our physical body, there is going to be something else and to the extent possible that you can take a peek at those things. You should in a in an observational and impartial way. And then and then and then apply them what Yeah, and I love that you say it like that. And for maybe somebody that doesn't understand it, it's a learning experience, no matter what you do, even if you stub your toe, right, take the understanding of stubbing your toe and be like, Okay, I'm never gonna stub my toe again. I'm gonna watch out and be cognizant of my surroundings for the rest of my life. Because I know what can happen the next time. So yeah. And then also part of it like is a lot of people are very averse to pain. And, and pain sucks. No, I mean, no, no, he likes pain. Yeah, however, pain is a way to communicate with your body. Right? So, you know, like, I really don't. I don't remember the last time I took a painkiller no matter what. Because I want that link even though it sucks. Everybody says I'm crazy for being thinking that same way. Oh, you think the same way? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ever don't take medicine don't. Yeah. So we don't want to break that link to your body. And I mean, pain is is is a way of communication, just as the body's telling you other things. Yeah. So it's kind of like working out, right. Like, if you can't lift it, you're gonna push through and try to do it. So we had a couple other comments, Jeff. Yeah, Jeff said totally made you talk about tacos. Hey, dude, I don't think we can skip a show without talking about tacos. While I read this next comment, because JT horns is a pretty long comment. But Kyle arnsberg says, What's your favorite track and why? I don't know. Maybe you've raised some serious cool tracks. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say the the quarry track were had that huge crash that that wasn't a core days. That was really interesting, fun track way. We drove with the natural terrain of a quarry. And it flowed good. it flowed amazing. Like so basically, you do, you'd go top speed. And then you'd hit this big bang turn. And you didn't you didn't use the break at all you did was hacked sideways and then you would float up a hill and then come back down. And and then you did there was another turn just like that there was a big old sky drop. And then there was an infield section is places where you could get around people. So it was it was a very interesting track for sure. I would say overall, though, as a racer, if you do this a long time, probably the first track that comes to your mind or the track that you prepare for is grand. Yeah, I was gonna say that mean, that's track is legendary, but the track you're talking about was in Chula Vista, right in Chula Vista. Another track which is the Chula Vista track was a little bit before my time but I've heard probably five or 10 people all say the same thing as us so cool. It was a very cool tracker was just like it just it Just had a I don't know jenis acquired it just like this. You can't really put your finger on it, but it just had a lot going on. And a good feel. Yeah, it was it was the natural terrain. It was just something that you Yeah, that that you don't get, you can't really go and recreate it yourself in your backyard because the scale of it was just too big like the, the hill that you that you went at full speed and slid up and came back down without touching the brakes was, you know, I don't know how many stories high, let's say it was at least four stories high. So you're going up, you know, 40, maybe 5060 feet of elevation, straight up. And then and then there was there was a couple of those. And then and then you and then you have a drop off. And again now you're doing this with a bunch of other drivers. So now you're all almost like a choreograph the almost like a ballet where you guys are all just sliding up alongside each other. So that's very interesting. But if I have to say like a track that is just nutty. It would be Wheatland, yeah, that track was pretty gaudy. Like it because it's so man made. Well, the interesting thing at Wheatland is the ridiculous tabletop in the back section. Yeah, that thing is huge. We were all out as fast as our ATVs would go and we would barely clip the end of him and people were losing it big time. You could clear that thing and a UTV, turbo UTV could grease it. Uh huh. normally aspirated UTV would barely be getting the front wheels over it, but it was as fast as your UTV could go around that Daytona turning down and if you slid up just so that they turn a little bit it was like you're not doing it. I there was there was two two different occasions on there that just blew my mind. One is basically when I say Wheatland, everything I think about is just that tabletop. tabletop is ridiculous. It's just we're in the air for seconds. Yeah. And, and so and then if there's a crosswind you're up in the air long enough that the guy next to you can get blown by the wind and that's the that's one of the times the like the most memorable jumps I've had was think it was RJ Anderson he we took off side by side almost side by side what I thought were side by side. And then I just watched him move over and then disappear underneath my truck completely No shit and this is this tabletop probably 150 feet or something. It's long, it's it's just it's so long, and we're up in the air for it just pops you and then you just do your hang time. It's just as long enough that I watched a vehicle move over and then disappear completely underneath me. Now I'm getting ready for a crash at this point. So I'm like, Oh shit, I'm is because you think he's under. He's under me. I'm gonna land on him. And we're doing I don't know how much miles now we're like 20 feet up in the air. This is really going to be bad. And then now come down to come down to land and crash. And then all of a sudden, he just squirt he lands and squares I had. I have no idea because I can't see him. He lands in squirts in an island. And we're just back to racing. And I was already 50% I was already 50% into the crash. I was like what happened? I was I was halfway through the crash. Okay. That was one of the things that like you can't plan for right though. Holy shit, man. Yeah. And so he was probably an inch ahead of you at that time. Like, right? I didn't even know how it happened. It was unbelievable. And it was so thankful that it wasn't a crash. But I've never been in that situation where you were so far into a crash already, because you'd had time to get ready for the crash because you're up in the air so long. And then and then have it not happened was just an ad all of this is taken, taken in sequence for maybe two seconds. Yeah, it was it seemed like a really long time. That's great. And there's been so many times in short course racing where that has nobody has been that lucky. They've actually had the crash execute 100% and then there was another time on that same tabletop, this was Doug Montag. So there's a train of us, we will take we will take off and we're on the tabletop. And then and then I don't know what Doug was doing. But he was he was just going harder. And so so he takes it and and then he comes and he's completely a truck length above all of us. And and going faster because he's so much higher. So his Apex in the air is like 4060 feet after you guys probably I yeah, I mean exactly. And, and now some they're in the middle of a race and all sudden I turn into a spectator and I look over and I see the underneath of this guy's truck flying over the top of me and I was like, wow, that's super exciting. Oh man in the middle of the middle of a race. Because I'm a spectator. This tracks above me and I don't even know where it's gonna land. But it's it's just that that's like that's Wheatland and that just that jump alone. It's so sketchy and it screws you up. A lot of people but in terms of like the the excitement from being on that jump and participating in that race with that jump, there's like, you know, you never thought something like that would happen until you they're experiencing it. And then these weird things happening. And it's just, it's one of those things where somebody was like me who has just a terrible memory, but that's imprinted in there. That is so cool, though. And we were talking about it a little bit before last week when we were talking about the fans and the fans on the East Coast or Midwest are phenomenal. So you said the Korean fans are phenomenal that people like Wheatland are phenomenal. That's probably one of the things that they go to look for. Right is because they have all those same memories ingrained in them too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, the fans in the in the Midwest. I mean, though, that's the real deal. And, you know, I would I would love it if we could get the the West Coast to have that same type of dedication and realness, I guess, is what it is. And so yeah, so it's, it's super fun to, to be going to CRAN and embark river and and the Midwest tracks where people just have that excitement. And I also get that in Mexico to like that. Yeah. Phil. I don't know if humanity is the right word. I don't know. Like real fans, right. And I mean, their appreciation levels different than the West Coast. I can totally get that vibe. And I don't know if that the people on the West Coast are different. I think it's more saturated. Right. They're so used to it. I think. Maybe it's partially the tracks like to me. Yeah, yeah. Like Glen Helen to me. Is it aren't going well. No. is Yeah, let me let me kick. Glen Helen is gold. Not the track that we run race on in Lucas, right. But the real track like I look at that, and I see little, you know, glimpses of like Chula Vista, the court, those big up the big up the hill, that first day town attorney Glen Hill, it would be so cool on a pro four. That's where we should be. That's where we should be on the end and running around on these vehicle. I got to I got to drive the motocross track in a UTV for a Yamaha thing that we did with Yamaha out there. It was so fun. Like, I didn't even want to go back to the short course track. I had so much fun riding the dirt bike track. Exactly. 100%. So it was super cool. Maybe that's what would you know, because that type of energy that gets transmitted from the the racer into the fellow racer into the crowd? I don't know. That's my that's my only solution as to how we can get that type of ritualistic back. Yeah, bring or just put us on the on the main track of Glen Hill is right. Robby Gordon did a writing in the in this supertruck series. Oh, yeah, that's right. Right. He did. I mean, I didn't do it. wasn't some of those jobs look a little bit sketchy on those in those trucks, but I don't disagree with you. Yeah, David commented, and again, and he said, we definitely thought we'd lost you at the quarry that one day. Yeah, man. It's tough though. But you got to understand like the mentality that he gets afterwards is he's blessed to be here. Soda before core raced at Glen Helen. Yeah, I mean, I think it'd be cool to bring something back like that. And David also said the ski jump with the head on breeze for the Wheatland stuff. Oh my god. Yeah. That's some goes crazy crashes at that Wheatland. Remember, I think what's his name? mania or whatever? Randy. Randy yardsale. Yep. Where he his truck just turned into a kite. Yeah, yeah. The one that sticks in my head is it was Rodrigo and who's Marty Hart and Corey Hart. I think it was and so they it was two guys. Both of them. No lift guys hothead guys. And they just wanted to add jump each other and they were landing halfway down the hill. Maybe it was to the bottom of the habits gotta be so like, hard. It was unbelievable. And I mean, I think so. It caught Cory ended up yardsaling Oh, Kyle. Kyle. Kyle. Okay. He ended up yardsaling because it was him in Rodrigo. And I don't know if they touched or whatever. But all I know is Kyle had many seconds to view that in terms of like, think about the takeoff to landing. That's got to be like four second. I mean, it's a long time to get over the tabletop and almost down to the flats off of that job. I mean, how many are looking at preparing for this? Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. So that that one sticks in my mind. That ski jump at Tula hat and onshore breeze Okay, so he's talking about that one. Yeah, I can see that. I mean, it's so close down there. I wonder. Yeah. I mean, I think the the crash I had a tool. I think what happened was because I was I was, I think that was I was going I can't I can't actually remember. I don't know if my throat felt like my throttle stuck. Or possibly. I may have hit the brakes too late. I don't know what have I ever had. happened whatever happened. I don't know if it was I don't know if it was wind. I don't remember to be honest. But what happened what happened in during the crash you ended? Yeah, basically went down the whole ski jump, like bait almost vertical looking at the ground. And then for a penny whatever they say something like that. And then it just it just graze the ground a little bit and then the a pillar just stuck in the ground and went straight up. Yeah, because it was that hard impact like you were talking about that sudden stuff. That's a slugfest man that does suck. Well, let's, um, let's kind of change gears a little bit or switch gears a little bit and talk about some of the accomplishments and accolades that you've had. So you've been racing, pro fours, or off road for how long now? My first race was a 99. So it's over 20 years. Well, I I crashed and, and took in, didn't do the 2001 season because of a crash at Crandon wasn't really a crash I got, yeah, actually, I did have a crash. So that killed that season, and then didn't come back until 2005 or six. So several years there. And then I was also 911, that kind of put a damper on things because I was based out in New York City. So that didn't help. Oh, you're doing some of your business stuff out there. Yeah, just you know, just like it really, because I live my couple blocks from the World Trade Center. And so we were evacuated when able to come back for a few months. And, and then it just, yeah, it. It kind of made racing, like, well, I don't know how we're going to do that right now. Because we got big legs at this point. Yeah. So anyway, I think I came back in 2005, or 2006. I did go away for a few years. Yeah. And then and then come back. So we can call it about 15 years or so. But during that time, you had a lot of cool things happen. You were learning how to do it. You're establishing a team, you're building sponsors. You were doing all of the stuff that every normal racer does. But you had some pretty good accomplishments. You've won races before you've competed for championships. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the thing that the place we're sitting here now is my own race shop. And I'm in I'm here, and that's something which I should have done a long time ago. And I wasn't able to do why I didn't figure out I should say how to do it. Because I was working and living in Manhattan. Right. And then having a race team. You know, located remotely or not, not there with me? Well, yeah, so you're arm's length? Yeah. So basically being in arrive and drive, arrive and drive guy. And that's really super hard to do. So I would say that. I think I would, I would be further along. In terms of the some of the consistency if, if I would have a if I would be located here. And so that's kind of what I'm trying to do. But yes, along the way, have had lots of wins. I think 17 if I if I think if that's correct. And then the other thing that's really interesting is that I don't I don't know if anybody's had more bad luck than myself when it comes to, you know, leading a race and in something going wrong, like it's mechanical failure, or worse, just just anything. I mean, like I've been, you know, sub one Crandon a few times. But I've been in the lead so many times at just a crane and other places, and then even on the last leg, even on the last turn, and still had something go wrong. Yeah. And that those things are just so demoralizing. And bums me out. Because you're doing everything right, and something else happens. It's like stuff that you can't control. Yeah, it's just it's so great. Actually, for a guy like you to man, it's so crazy. It's like It's like, I don't know, I mean, and happens to other people, too. You know, like, where your your winner race just on the last lap. And so you sometimes you get handed, you know, some basically some freebies, but it's, it's, it's been crazy to me like that. How many how many of that times that's happened and and then I think a lot of lot of times it was my own my own doing like basically only having one gear, which just balls to the wall the whole time. You know? So like, being way out in the lead and just keep pushing, keep pushing, keep pushing instead of Hey, okay, you take it easy back off. Yep. Do you have a second gear? Do you have a third gear? Yeah, rather than just always 100%. Yeah, well, I guess that's good and bad, right? Because, first of all, I have the same personality. But it doesn't matter what we're doing. And your business acumen is the same, you're 100%, right? You're going to get the client, you're going to do a better job, you're going to, you know, make, meet those milestones and goals. I don't think you should put any, I don't know, pressure on yourself for having that personality. Because I think that's what really drives you to be able to do these fantastic things that you're doing in life. You're not sitting at home eating potato chips. I mean, well, I mean, the fans certainly like it. They know they're gonna get their money's worth. And so they don't take your eyes off of the wall. Hey, they gave me the nickname was right here on my shoulder. Yeah, yeah, that's, by the way that's not self proclaimed. I do think that's pretty cool that you do have that nickname. A couple of times that, that I remember you driving as well. And I talked about to Ryan beat a little bit about this last week. But when I went to wild horse pass, I think it was one of the first races that I've ever been to and seen, I think it was in the 2000, maybe 12 2013 area. And I didn't even know short course existed at this time, right? Um, this motocross kid, and dirt bikes are the best thing ever. But then I started seeing short course. And I remember seeing the orange truck. And I remember seeing your nickname. And I thought to myself, and this guy is gonna be good to watch. Like, I'll watch him during the during the race. And he didn't disappoint and you didn't, I think you may have come home on the podium or top five or something. But, um, so it was a good race for you. But the whole time I remember seeing you going, I don't wanna say back and forth. Because for whatever reason, you're battling these guys. And something would happen, like you're saying, and you'd fall back a couple positions. And most people would be like, Okay, I gotta save the truck. You're like, No, fuck this. I'm going back by those dudes that put me in this position. It was really cool. Because it was motivating for me to see that people still had that, like, go get them attitude and didn't like, just fall back. The thrill of the race. Yeah, even in the middle of it. It's like, it's really so exhilarating. And you're just so happy to be in that racing. And and so it gets to, like the ultimate race is where you go to and turn to you. You came on the outside, I forgot who it was. It wasn't a college Duke. It was a it might have been rented center. But you came from outside and whatever happened, he slipped up a little bit. And when you came from the outside, you started turning probably, I don't know, a good 80 feet before the turn because you want to make sure you saw the slide and you want to make sure you got under him. And man, it was so cool. The amount of roofs that went over the barriers on that turn. I was like floored It was so cool. Nice. Those those those moments for me are like, little they're like those memories that you remember right like Wheatland, like they're so cool for me to see. And I was never able to obviously drive a pro for UTV guy. But it's always cool to have those in the back of your head when you're doing it yourself. Because you feel like that guy, right? The thing that that I really like about the the pro four or the four wheel drives is that you can you can actually let the truck do its thing. Yeah. And your personality can actually you can actually differentiate Yeah, people by you know, how are they driving? Which is weird because you just going around the track. I mean, how can you tell one guy from another, but that's what's what's really interesting is, is like I like watching drivers where you can actually see some personality. Yeah, from what they're doing. And I thought that was interesting how you can how that can be because there's somebody sitting in a truck. I mean, it's just a truck. It's like getting me so excited. Just thinking about this My heart's pumping I'll get but that's really a good way to look at it. Because I think that's why fans are so intrigued by it. And I love it so much is because you know, I can feel it when people are have that personality going like, Yeah, I know he's pumped. I know he's thinking like this, because he's gonna go through a turn. You can almost get in line like you're in sync with them when you're watching along the track. And for any of you guys that aren't watching the video, we have one of Adrian's pro for sitting here right behind us getting all prepped up for the Midwest series coming up. In just a month or two here, right? Yeah, yeah. June, June 6, I think is the first race. Are you excited? Yes, I am. Yeah, get back to racing. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, it's normally we're really racing by this time right now. We'll just about Yeah. When we were running on the West Coast now that is Midwest that store the store for us on the ground. So it's it's much more of a summer season. But it does, it gives us time to to really get ready and prepared. Yeah. Which is great. But yeah, I'm really excited. And there's the really seems like short course and in particular pro four is taking a major uptick this season. It really looks like there's gonna be a lot of drivers in that class. So I'm excited for you guys because that's one of the most bummer things right is out here on the West Coast last couple years. You get podium because everybody else breaks like that's, you don't want that as a racer. None of us fans want it. So if you guys have a bunch of people on the track, man, it's gonna be knocked down drag out awesomeness. Yeah. And so one of the racers who's come back in, he started I want to start out racing. He was racing as Jamie Flannery. Oh, really? Yeah. So he's now he came, he's come back. And he's come back with a vengeance. And so he's put together a team so there's going to be two more for the whole season next year Keegan Kincaid is going to be in a pro for Jamie is going to be an opponent. I think there's going to be a couple of other guys and the the field I mean, I think the the West Coast guys that that didn't make it back to the east are maybe going to be coming back. So maybe like a tag? Maybe RJ Anderson. I'm not sure who else hopefully they come and be nice of Greg Adler comes. But if these guys can come in, we can have a just a stacked field. And it's going to be super exciting. Because I mean, I'm just so all about four wheel drive. I mean, to me, like if you think about Okay, I'm gonna go in the dirt. Do you ever think? I mean, two or less wheels are better than two wheel drives. Two wheel drives, okay. Yeah. I'm like, No, you need all four wheels pulling. That's the way to go in the dirt. That's why it's the big dogs. That's why everybody goes up in the stands and watch. Oh, man. I mean, if you can go high, you can go low. You can do things and, and that's why, in the UTV week now I'm excited to get into UTV because it's Yeah, that's big news that you were telling me and for all of you guys out there. So everybody wants to drive a pro for right. Well, now you're going to drive a UTV to. Yeah, I got really lucky and hooked up with race driven who their power sports company out of escanaba. Michigan. And yeah, I'm going to be in an RS one. Dang. Pro Stock UTV in the in the champ series, right. Always in the Midwest series. Have you got it? Well, you have a UTV that you probably drive around on the trails and stuff, right? Yeah, I've got a couple. I love it. I mean, I really love the RS one. I've got it's my own one really dialed in. And, and so yeah, I'm super excited to go and racing one and get more seat time and just have more fun and I think there's I don't know 4050 in the class shit, man. There's a big class. So we are probably gonna have to like amb main them. No, I think they just they just let them all go. It's that's exciting. That is exciting. Tons of guys out there to race against is exciting. Hey, talk about personalities, you get to experience all new personalities in that class. Oh, yeah. That's gonna be pretty fun. It's probably going to be Yeah, I mean, there's people going to be odd sailing. And because I mean, with that many people in there. Yes. It's going to be tough. And so they are they building your UTV for you now? Yes. Okay, cool. So you'll be able to have already Are you gonna be able to get AMC time? And before then? Are they just gonna ship it down to the track? No, no, we definitely gonna need to get some seat time. And so 2020 Polaris RS one, and it's gonna get you know, whatever can get done to a dandy, it's supposed to be stock, so not too much you can do yeah, whatever we can do those guys push the limits in that in a class man. So whatever the rules are, they push all the way up against those bad boys. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, the the tight, tight officiating. From what I understand. It's very tight, but it is. But that's gonna be super exciting to be upon. It's four wheel drive. Yeah. Not gonna not be fun. It's gonna be a little different than what you're used to. But I think it's going to still be really cool for you. Like you said, it's going to be extra seat time. So you'll be able to notice the track more and get a get a better feel for the things that are going on. And you're going to experience all different competition. I think it'd be cool to see what you say after the series is done, and see how you how you think, maybe come join them to some of these specific UTV races. I think it'd be pretty cool to see out there. I know all of our audience members would really like that. Alright, well, let's uh, we're gonna get into some more fun stuff after the commercial break. So let's do that right now. We'll see you guys are just a second here. Hello, I'm Justin, the founder of shock therapy. Shock Therapy has been around for five years, but we have personally been tuning suspension on off road cars and race vehicles for over 25 years. We tune between 10 and 15 cars per day, every single day of the week. Our concentration is tuning shock systems and supplying components that improve the ride quality of your car in many ways. Not only do we work on the average UTV, but we also tuned suspension for race teams and professional drivers. 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So with your flux, you can fix a brake line stainless steel steel, and then your hot block heat absorption putty so yes, you from getting burned number one as well as keeps the heat from traveling. So it's really, really nice to use this not even to fix anything so it's that stuff works so good, man. Listen, it's easy. It's it straps in nicely so that you have everything you need in one little place. And you don't have to carry a big bag and like a first aid kit for your vehicle. Yeah, Chase trucks have it as well so that you know if they need to make a fix on the fly, they can get it done and get it done quick and get you back in the race. Dude, those things are so cool. All right, so it was at solder weld on Instagram, Facebook, and solder weld calm. Awesome. All right. Thanks, buddy. Appreciate it. Yeah, we are back. Thank you guys for sticking with us Episode 75 of The Dirt Life Show with pan is legend Adrian Chani sitting right next to me on the left here. He's got so many fantastic things, we could have probably two or three more shows just talking about some of the stuff that he's doing or done in his life. But we're just talking about some of the Midwest short course racing and how the pro four class is set to be pretty freakin awesome this year. I mean, we've seen the pro for class last couple years and we've really wanted it to grow and I mean be the class that it's really going to be I mean, now I think maybe we should get some more people involved or you know, get everybody going. Yeah, so one of the one of the good things about losing it on the losing the pro forma on the west coast is hopefully those guys a US guys are going to all be in reunited with the East Coast guys and I actually tried to get something like that together came up before Lucas let go of the pro For series, I came up with a way that we could have the drivers from the west coast go to the east coast and East Coast go the West Coast and it fell on its face. I couldn't get it to work. I was going to call it the the Race of Champions. And so it was like a East West shootout contract. Yeah, what it was, was it was a series within a series. And my whole goal was to just put up a bunch of money to get to be the carrot To me, that's like, you know, that's going to get guys to come out of the woodwork and and to compete, and both the east and the west coast and make the drive over. And then, because it's really when you get everybody together, that's when the best racing is gonna happen. You know, the more competitive guys together, the better. So I was, Why don't roll the sport. Yeah. And yeah, it was just so natural. It's just a natural thing. You know, especially with the pro sports, it's such a great vehicle. And there's a lot of good drivers. That could be, or they could be a lot of good drivers if they're together. But if you you know, if you take them here, and you take them there, because it's so expensive to run and pro for me is such a learning curve. Right? It kind of deters a lot of people. Well, do you think there's as much of a learning curve now with all these guys that are? I don't want to say graduating or coming up through utvs? like is that kind of seems like a good step. Right. I mean, not as far as the budget goes, but from your goal. Yes. I mean, so you got Kyle Cheney, and then it is this. Why am I forgetting the other guys? CJ kind of did it too. Yeah. I mean, I guess he kind of back and forth. But yeah, but last season was I think the first season of pro four of this is why that there's a couple of good guys that came in from the utvs into the profile. And they're, they're competitive, which is great. And then now we've got some of the West Coast guys that are going to hopefully come some all the West Coast guys that didn't make it last year, we're going to come to the end join up. And then maybe a couple of new guys are going to come in a couple, a couple of people will step up, maybe so. And then like I said, with the with some money coming into it as well. It would be very cool to see that class girl man. I've always I mean, it's a when I grew up as a little kid raised watching dirt bike racing, I always went and made sure even if I was racing the at beginner class, I always went up and watch the pros raise. Yeah. And so I always made sure that every time I was at a Lucas race, whether I was the race before or the race, at the beginning of the day, I always walked up and watch the pro fours always. Yeah. And my favorite class. And this and with good reason. I mean, it's, it's, it's so much fun to watch, for sure. And we need to get more people into it. For sure. And I think part of the what we should do is, is put some some cost cutting or cost saving measures in place, right, or bonus structure or anything like that. I mean, certainly prize money will definitely bring guys out for sure. But I'm thinking more like a front diff standardized front diff. Oh, I see standardized transmission. crate moda mean, some of these things to bring if you bring the cost down, or if you make it so that there's not a learning curve, because the whole front diff is a learning curve, if you want to figure out what's the best front diff and how to get it to live and blah, blah, blah, right transfer cases, I'll say things though, yeah, same thing with the transmission is like automatic versus manual, there's a definitely a learning curve in keeping the manual live and not snapping the motor and, and having it be strong enough that it's going to live with the extra power over there, like on the the two wheel drive on the prolights. So if we put some of those things in place, then then maybe it would make it so that people come back. And there's a lot of pro formas out there that are not running because the guy doesn't want to upgrade just the transmissions. So there's a lot of automatic pro formas Oh, you're talking about pro for sitting and graduate collecting dust, correct that because they've got an automatic transmission and to you know, to upgrade now to run to be competitive, you got to have a manual, right? And the manual transmission you're looking at 40 grand, you can't have one you got to have two so now you're 80 grand and plus your learning curve and then you got to have your clutches are gonna are gonna work. So it's it's a big endeavor with a learning curve. So money and learn and and learning curve to get it to work. So I think there's a big opportunity, though, this year, especially with a pro for class growing by everybody coming together for an organization to be able to build on those things that you're talking about. So making specify specific rules or specific things happen is a lot easier when you have a big group of people instead of just one or two people. You So let's say for example, the five automatic transmission profiles that are sitting in people's garage, which if Cham came out and said, okay, going forward, if you're going to run a manual transmission, you got to carry an additional 250 pounds over the automatical, whatever they say, you know, whatever they come up with. And then now those automatic transmission trucks are going to be competitive and can go out and be in the race and be in the mix. That's very similar to the way that Lucas structured the rules for the UTV class when Yamaha had the manual shift Wags he compared to a CVT of a player's razor. So the player's razors had to weigh 1600 80 pounds and the Yamaha's had to weigh I don't know, are 650. And whatever they were in the yamahas were 100 pounds heavier, 150 pounds heavier and did a workout. I think if you ask the players guys at certain points, it didn't. And now the Yamaha guys are saying it didn't because they're changing the rules and trying to figure out where the actual sweet spot is. But there's two vehicles racing together. So I think if you ask the general public, it's working out. Good. So I don't know about the racers opinions about it. But you know, from an outsider standpoint, I think it's fine. Well, I mean, it's, it's expensive to go and pro for and that's there's a reason it's like double the expense to go from a pro to to a pro four, why is that it's just, you know, a front diff, some axles and a T case, why is a double, you know what's going up. So, but there is a lot more into going to four wheel drive. So if we can maybe do two things, one is pick a weight penalty, or whatever penalty for whatever the current situation is, to be able to encourage the some of the not as competitive vehicles to come back and be competitive, that would be number one, and then maybe number two is to say, okay, within a certain amount of time, we're going to have a standardized one, which would be something that you can pick, you don't have to pick it, but this is the standardized one, and then the standardized one is going to be the one with the the least amount of of penalty, right? And, and that's going to be a balancing act, but you know, not easily balanced. And when they brought in the VA great motors and prolight. They had to do the eslinger that were way faster at the beginning. And then the VA started catching up. And they had to balance that whole thing for those whatever, one or two years that they did it. So yeah, I mean, it's it's gonna there's gonna be a little bit of turbulence. But if if the end result is that you've got guys that can muster the budget now to be into into a pro for, then that's really where we need to be because it's, you know, having it be such an open class. It's it's down to the guys that have the most experience and the and the budget to do it. And I'm fortunate because we really need up and coming guys. Yeah, absolutely. You don't want to be money racing. You want it to be talent racing. Yeah, absolutely. I agree with that. Well, it'll be interesting to see. And I think there's a real good opportunity, like I said, with the champ off road series doing it and you know, the gas workwear series on the West Coast here that now starting back up again, I think there's a good opportunity for it to help all the guys on the west coast to expand you know, maybe it'll be more like a regional series at the beginning, but there's plenty of room for them to have a pro for race of five guys show up, you know, whatever it is. Yeah, yeah. I mean, this this, clearly a market for West Coast racing is a hub here. And this, I mean, there's just access to all the vendors that are in this kind of general area. So it's, there's no doubt that there's a market for it. It's going to need money. And and obviously some some smart decisions for sure. If and that's why I go back to like, Glen Helen to me is gold. Let's go and Right. Right. Yeah. Let's get some excitement. Let's go on the big track. You know, I mean, if we can't if we're not going to have the money for a big payday or mega exciting or a big TV that at least make it so that we're racing on iconic epic tracks. Alright, if anybody from Glen Helen is watching, give Adrian his dream. Let him get on the big track, man. Absolutely. So we had a bring two profiles if you let me. There we go. So David P said, pro four is the US equivalent of f1. The last unlimited racing class on the dirt? Yeah, well, I don't know if I would consider it quite f1 status because f1 is on another level from any type of racing. But it is pretty cool that you think about it like that. Because for all of us off road guys that are watching this show. I think it really is the top echelon of the sport. Like it doesn't get any better than like I said it before watching a pro for racing watching you guys just knock down drag out. Yeah, I mean, he's he's right. That having a be an open class, it does have some. It's interesting because you could push the limits Or innovate in an area and then have it go your way, which is great. But it does end up coming down to just one or two trucks that a superior to everybody else's. And that's that's unfortunate. Yeah, I mean, it's it's definitely it's a it's a tough but that's the same thing in f1, though. I mean, like, we'll just compare apples to apples. I mean for our he's doing pretty good now but the Mercedes are way ahead of the field no matter what. So it was a crazy budget, what are they? Well, they and we're not talking about budgets, we're talking about ratios here, right? Like we're talking about. But so racer a and racer B in the short course series driving a pro for those budgets are obviously different, but the level can close up pretty quickly if they have those certain things like what you're talking about. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you could you know, you to be competitive, you're talking hundreds of 1000s, if not million or more just to be competitive. And then if you want to just blow everybody out of the water. Yeah, I mean, if you run double that budget, then that's gonna be a good start. Right? It's still you still gonna have to have people that know what they're doing. But yeah, it's a team around you, right? Being able to build that truck and do all that stuff. We could talk about that for days. But I really do think that you have a good point. And I think that the pro for stuff could definitely grow. If it's executed properly. I think it'd be fantastic to see. A full. Could you imagine a pro for had? Well, we want to say UTV level numbers at 50. But maybe half that 20 trucks 25 trucks in the field, that would be insane. Yeah, I think we're going to hopefully we're going to approach that this year at the at the full Crandon because a lot of guys come out of the woodwork for that. And with Jamie stepping up, Jamie Flannery stepping up in Crandon that we could start to see some of that is super cool. Yeah. So I mean, it's definitely. So like, if you look back at the core days when Jim Baldwin was doing it, and we had 10 to 12,000 people in the stands on good tracks, and it had momentum. So there was two things in place a guy spending money, the promoter spending money, and good tracks. And so kind of looks like we got that going in the Midwest now too. And so it's looking up. It really is, I wonder how many people are gonna be out? What's the most amount of people that you've ever had on track at once in a pro for race? You remember? Gotta be over 10 at least my memories. My memories. Oh, crap. No, I mean, just a couple years ago, I think we had like 1516 guys. Yeah, I remember that. Like where when I first got into short course or first year learning about your course there was a good amount. Did you ever reach that speed world track with the moguls that were in? Speedway. It was in North Phoenix. So it was Yeah, it wasn't wild horse. It was in North Phoenix and they had like a mogul section right down the middle of the track. Yeah. right hander and then a nice left hander bank. Yeah, I love that track. That's why that's why I practice my barrel roll for years. Oh, really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's insane, man. Yeah. I think that's pretty cool, though. So that track is still there. I believe. It's it's obviously in disarray right now. But yeah, that was a good track. Yeah. It will look like a really cool place. Yeah, one of one of the people that I grew up racing dirt bikes. His father actually managed that place. But anyways, yeah, so we got a couple questions can Yeah, Dan. Yeah. So I remember Dan. Dan was cool. Cool enough to let me go and dig a hole and put some tires in and go practice the barrel. Yeah, Dan's definitely good people. I'm so pro Ford. Yeah. And then, man, it would be so cool to see 10 to 20. Pro for trucks out there. I really hope that the Midwest series brings that type of numbers this year. Yeah. Yeah, I don't. I don't see why not. john lewis commented and said, pre Lucas core days. Glen Helen used to have off road races on the main track. Oh, wow. That's cool. How it only happen. Now, it only happens for special events. I'll probably like Robby Gordon's one. That facility has some Yeah, it's a pretty awesome facility. We need to get more crammed in races out of Glen Helen, I think Glen Helen is about the only place that has the structure or infrastructure to be able to do something like what you're talking about. Yeah, I mean, if West Coast if we're going to make West Coast, what it should be. We've got to start with a couple of really good tracks. Okay, so Reno's a good track. It's right there. I think there's another place out in Anza. It's called cahier Creek. That's a dirt bike track. They have all kinds of potential for a short course stuff because they have nice rolling hills and different things like that. It would be fantastic if somebody could do something out there. Yeah, I mean, there's there could be three tracks if we if we do Glen Hill, and on the real track, I'm in the big track. You do Reno and fuck Could you imagine a pro for going all the way up to Mount Saint of the top of Mount St. Helens It's hard to get up on a dirt bike. Oh, that's that's Glen Hill. That's the Oh, here. I see your gears turning right now you get an idea as to try to go up the hill. Hmm. 100%. Yeah. So, on the main track, it's the hill. That's all the way at the top of the flag on it. Gotcha. Yeah. So that would be pretty cool. In fact, that's the hill. I broke my back. Really? Yeah, at the bottom of the hill. So yeah, so let's kind of go a little bit more in depth as to what your plans are for 2021. You already mentioned that you're going to be racing, a UTV and a pro for in the Midwest series. Is there any other stuff that you're going to be working on next year? Yeah, I got a fall out of the sky in the bubble. And you have to do it and break the the altitude record on what's the what's the goal? For altitude? Like, where are you going to start? And where are you going to think the first question Where do you land like, what's what's like, how do you even from space? Do you say I'm gonna land in California? Or I'm gonna land over here, like, like chasing a hot air balloon? And are you you know, you know, we you kind of you use a meteorologist to figure out where you're gonna land. Okay, and then, and then again, when you do it, you're going to have some practice drops and like, some unmanned drops, and so it's, it's going to be somewhat organized, holy crap, it's insane. You're gonna do that. So So that's some that's on the horizon. I do want to be able to do the double barrel 720. Spin in even more than what you we decided to do. Yeah, do a double a double spin. And that's going to be mind blowing and epic when that works. And from what you said before, like, you get jarred, when you're moving around, and that does that increase the G forces to two flips? Is that? Oh, yeah, it's gonna be ridiculous. Oh, yeah. It's gonna be it's, it's probably not gonna be a good idea. But you know, if you can do it, and survive that will be you better start doing some more training there, buddy. Know, the way to do this is first of all, you got to you got to build the purpose built trucker conscious, take an old pro for and modify purpose it. Yeah, now you're gonna have to have like, basically a, a truck built completely around the driver cab, and you can't have your head be able to hit all the tubing, like, like it does in a regular barrel. Because it's, it's a lot of, you know, lateral forces, there's no forces front and back. It's all just to the side, which is really bad for your neck. So does that mean that you change any of the aerodynamics on the vehicle? Or does it really matter going? Well, I was not Eric, no, it's not really erudite, you're not going fast enough to have it be like a big arrows, okay. It's mostly you just need hang time, you need hang time, and then probably going to have to speed the spin up and then slow it down when you want to land. And you got to also make sure that the takeoff ramp, you got to really take the guesswork out, you got to make it so that the takeoff ramp really probably just puts you so that you there's no margin for error, because you're gonna have to go faster than do a little bit more engineering. So you angle the ramps differently or something? Well, you got to you got to make the ramps or basically completely adjustable. Gotcha. So number one, but the like the say the forefoot ramp that on the single barrel now is going to be a six foot take off ramp. And so you've got it's got to before you like two seconds of hang time, now you got to go closer to four seconds of hang time spinning. So it's gonna be a shit show. But dude, those mathematics are already confusing me. But it sounds like it's gonna be bitching. Yeah, it's gonna be amazing. When it works. Yeah, when it works. And what do you guys do to prepare for that? Clearly, you're going to maintain your body and stuff. But, um, do you have a team that helps you? You have to put together the team. I mean, it's, you know, right now, we're looking for some funding to do it. Because I got all my I'm already maxed out with what I'm doing. I mean, I did. I have done some preliminary research and some testing, just with like RC cars. And we know what how we want to make the ramp, right. We know what how we want to make the vehicle up. And yeah, so yeah, we kind of know what we want to do, because we've done some testing over the last couple of years to figure it out. So now it's time to actually go and build the vehicle build the ramp, it's got to be like 100 foot long ramp, dedicated ramp, I mean, it's got to be a really nice ramp, the vehicles got to be a certain way. And then that's just even get to, you know, basically just step one, which is start testing. So for any of you guys that are listening that didn't catch what he said for the last couple of years, he's been testing this and it's still phenomenal to me to see how much effort you're putting into these things that you're passionate about flying through the sky, jumping from space and above. Whatever the highest altitude, like those things are so time consuming, and they take so much energy and research and development and you're doing it outside of a full time gig, you're pro for racing career, and you're still doing all this stuff, man it it's, it's really cool to sit here next to you and see the ambition that one person has. It really is. Thank you. So seven 720 720 degrees in a barrel roll. In a modified pro Ford truck is gonna be insane. It's not gonna be a modified profile. This is gonna be a purpose built from scratch. truck, Hey, watch it. Next thing you know, it's gonna be taking that and modifying its ratio, of course. Who knows how good it's gonna be right? Did you ever measure any of the of the forces that you're getting put through and some of these stunts? Like, do you ever track it like with a computer module or something? Like a GPS reader or anything like that? Because to get knocked out? Yeah. I mean, like fighter pilots do who knows how many G's before they get knocked out? So that's got to be some serious G's that you're born. Yeah, it's not the GS I'm pulling. It's just a heads mashing on stuff. Okay. So it's, it's the Sudden Impact. Yeah, it's just basically a head bouncing off the roll bars. And that's, that's just not good. Because again, you know, it's like, you're sitting, you're sitting in a cab, and you've got your roll cage is it's like really close to your head. So again, when you're doing the barrel roll, your forces on impact are not forward or backward. They're sideways. So when you land, so you got to one wheels landing. So your head comes down. And it works. The it works the roll cage, then it hits your leg, other leg, and then it hits the middle, the bar that separates you from the engine. Yeah, that's, you know, that's basically it's like a multiple smack of your head on everything. Yeah. So we've talked about this. We've had shows on safety, with safety experts, and all of these different things. And one thing that I always tell everybody, I mean, even if you're just a weekend warrior, and your UTV, and you don't set up your harnesses properly, you're still wearing your helmet and stuff. You can move with tight harnesses, you can move six to 10 inches in your seat with without having a proper setup. And you have a proper setup, clearly, but you're moving that much, because the forces are so great. So it's always so important to make sure you're as safe as possible. Yeah, I, I'm a firm believer, and I haven't I don't know if I'm right or wrong. But to me, I feel like your body is basically like Gumby. And you extrude what when you on impact. So you even though even though the belts are stretching, yes, but your whole body stretches, right. And so instead of six to 10 inches, I'm thinking you're stretching a foot or two, right? between the belts. Moving out of the seat, the impact your body stretching. I mean, I've got I've unfortunately got a very long neck and a very heavy head. And it just seems like, you know, I've actually felt my head come out the front windshield, hit the ground. And I'm fully strapped in. I have no clue how did that Yeah, just because there's so much force and that you're moving dirt at the same time. And I think on that particular impact I think the actual whole cab parallelogram so like the the top of the A pillars stuck in the ground, the rest of the frame kept going. So the ones like parallelogram Oh, fuck Somehow, I don't know how it didn't get to cavitated maybe? I don't know how that works. That's insane, man. So are you going to do anything specific for the barrel roll as far as safety goes? I mean, you're building a whole new truck. But did you learn anything like a containment seat? Anything like that? Yeah, what i think i think the way to go is to actually have the seat be on some type of a suspension system with that it can it can move almost similar to a those gyroscope type excepted not quite be a gyroscope, but basically, have it act a little similar fashion so that you have you know, shocks or shock absorbers in all directions that are can move and make sense and then kind of come back to and then come back to its happy place. So not that it's the same but like when you get me thinking about this, I've always wondered how toddla Duke because he's a guy that I know that raises monster trucks. I've always wondered how those safety systems are set up or those seats are set up. Because the impacts on the jarring and then the sudden stops that those guys make even when they just land on their tires is phenomenal. And then they do those rotations and and side sideways moves and stuff. And you see Todd's he's practicing for the double the double backflip. Yeah. And then I don't know what he's land. They didn't show what he's landing on. So he's probably landing on he did. He didn't want to do it when he landed on his head. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah, that was me, you know more than anybody but it must have been they must have made that really soft. sighs Yeah, it was he would have been much Much better, worse shape and less. The seat is also modified somehow. Yeah, I'm just wondering like, I've always wondered how they have those because a normal human body when you go through that big of an impact, let's just say you jump a monster truck. I don't know. He jumps way bigger than this, but 100 feet through the air, and you'd land straight down on those wheels. A normal human body would usually a vertebrae can't take that type of impact. Yeah, I don't know. I haven't been in a monster truck. I'm very intrigued by them. I have to tell you, because yeah, I love watching when Todd skies and does the mega jump, and then, but that's the whole physics thing we're talking about, right? Like, how do they do these different things with I think land? I think those those tires are, they take a ton of the impact away. So just think about the movement. So those tires are probably deflecting to each each of them, at least a couple feet, which is pretty much all you need. And then of course, you got the sharks on top of it. So I think, I think if that's if they land on the ties if they land, like if he's landing on his cage upside down. That's that's a difference. Yeah. Because it's the opposite way. Yet, everybody, David said, monster trucks, have you something like that. So I'm assuming he's talking about that as well, we'll see. Well, it'll be interesting to see what you come up with, I would really like to see, if you do some behind the scenes on on that build for the, for executing that. I think it would be pretty cool for people to see the different technology and stuff that you implement, because you've been clearly working on it for many years. And I think you could help some people. Yeah, it's, it's very interesting. Again, it's all just like, you know, risk assessment, problem solving, fun stuff, and then you get to go and roll, you know, and then try to make it work. Well, we're talking about this, like it's a, I don't want to say an easy thing, because it's obviously hard for you to do. But there's a lot of back process that goes through this, you got to obviously we'll call it sketch out where do your napkin idea, right? And then you got to start putting together the execution portion of it, how are you going to do it and plan ahead? And do you also have people that support the project like sponsors or anything like that, because this is just a one off thing that you're doing. But for all of the racers that are listening, or other people that are listening, wanting to be able to understand how to get these, these sponsors? Or how to do a project like this? What type of process Do you go through? Yeah, I've had, I've had a couple of sponsors that did help. They've, they fallen out, falling out and ran out of money. So that's been a little bit disheartening, because on the double barrel, I do want to get some help on that one, the single barrel and put that together on my own. So I had like a group of 12 stance, I was actually going to do a, I was actually pitching to do an automotive stunt show for on television. And so I have I have like 12 of stunts, like the barrel that I that I think can be done. Do you ever sleep? So so as you know, pitching this and And anyway, to answer your question, it's very hard to get people to have the vision. You know, yeah, I could sound now that I've done the barrel, and it's successful. And it's the first you know, 360 degree spin in a badass truck. Now, it's a little bit easier. We're still not easy, you know, so But yes, it's, it's hard. It's, it's pretty much hard to do to get to get people to throw money at it. Yeah. And coming first to market to it's always difficult because you have to be the one that's innovating and supporting it. I think it is so fantastic that you're doing this. But you have a lot of sponsors that are part of your your pro for racing program too, though, right? Yeah, I've had some, some really good sponsors. Probably the one that's stuck by my program the longest is king sharks. Oh, right on Yeah. and thankful for that. You were especially when you're doing these amazing stunts now, too. I mean, like, they're probably all on board with it after seeing barrel roll. Yeah, so so Brett King, who owns King sharks, I took him a photo where we're 20 feet up in the air, doing a barrel roll. And and we got a really nice picture. And and it's you basically can't replicate it. Like if, let's say in the desert or short course or anything else. It's once you're upside down, you know, in the middle of your spin, and then it snapped a picture. And then was it a perfect brand rehabilitation for him like, yeah, so basically, he's he's hanging in his office and you look at any like, Huh, that's not is that sticker upside down? What's Yeah, is this guy even shared or like what's happening? So it's like, yeah, that was that was really cool. So yeah, this this. What a cool piece of branding for him for the rest of his life. Yeah. That is pretty cool. Well, you got other people that support you too, as well too. You're wearing a mask. The shirt yeah yeah Max's you know, boxer boxer tools not yet you guys can see this boxer toolbox he built this car around it so shout out to Lucas over a boxer Yeah, yep k one that make really good rescue. So orange race gear by the way. Absolutely yeah I got my my, my fellow workmate who he had. He owns vision canopy. Yeah. Good. Okay. All right. Yeah. And so he's, he's doing really well, Sony's canopies. And he's just coming out with a 20 by 20 right now. Oh, really? So for UTV guys like if you don't want to, that's perfect. If you don't want to put up a whole big awning system on the side of a of a rig, or you just take 220 by 20s. Now you've got a 40 by 80 I'm sorry, you got ready. You got a 40 by 20 space. Well is yes. Huge. 80 by 20 or 40 by 40. Yeah, so you got a big, big room. So now you can have hospitality and you can have both TVs under the tent. Right? Yeah. And you can put it up and take it down. So excited to see how that looks. One of the things that I like most about vision canopy or Kyle himself is he's creative. Like he's got a good design. mindset. Yeah, well, I mean, he eats and breathes the off road stuff. So I mean, that's, you know, that's what he grew up with. And so now we're Yeah, we're applying that. And the canopies. What's nice about those kind of pieces, you can, you can put basically detailing everywhere, including underneath on the inside of the ceiling, if you want to Oh, really? Was it sublimation or something? That's pretty cool that you can do all that. Yeah, no clue. Just comes out pretty right. So we had a couple more comments come in Georgie and said, Did anything ever come of the monster truck with basically a bike frame in it that suspended harness instead of a seat? I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I don't know if you do but bike frame sitting on a bike frame inside of the middle of a monster truck? Yeah, I don't know. But it just gets your brain thing thinking in different manner. Right. Like, I have no idea what you're talking about. And I'm I don't know if Adrian does. But the cool part about that is, is that you don't have to have just a normal seat. Maybe it's a totally different thing that you're thinking about. I mean, I don't know if I'm gonna be sitting on a bike frame in Atlanta, super high. This thing's gonna go right up your butt. Yeah, exactly. I'm not doing that. I will say that in the bubble. I am definitely contemplating. Because I in the bubble, I have a race seat, like reclined. And it's too heavy. So I'm thinking of going to like a suspended harness. So you can actually move around on the inside of a bowl and jump around. And then when you land your well then you can manipulate it to write maybe a little bit. Yeah, but I think it's more that when you go to land, you can take your your you can use your legs as shock absorbers. So now you know you're not sending. You're not sending it up through your spine. Are you sending you using your legs a little bit? Yeah, I would definitely think that's cool. And I like all that forward thinking man. Alright, so we're going to talk about a couple other things. The only other thing that I had on my agenda was talking a little bit about more about the health stuff that you do, like 2020 has been a weird year. And everybody's looking for fixes to certain things. Like, what what I will say COVID I hate talking about COVID. But there's vaccinations out and I'm always an advocate of forward thinking, right? Like, what can I do to make my body better? And what can I do? Like I don't take pain medicine, just like what you did said, but what can I put in, you know, natural, or whatever it is to make it better and perform better because my body unfortunately doesn't perform very well. I think you have kind of a similar mindset. Yeah, I'm getting hardcore, because you know, I'm not getting any younger, and I still want to be able to do stupid stuff and bounce back. So I'm going hardcore into actually gene therapy research and funding different projects, I got five projects right now that are funded to one of them would be specific for joints. So it would be like the soft cartilage and joints to repair that like my knees jacked up, you have more out lasticity or something, hopefully would actually regrow the cartilage. So we're getting this is getting down to the DNA level on this stuff. So in addition to you know, trying to take care of yourself and get rest and and intense exercise and everything else is also look at the the DNA map that that's that we are made from and see what What's out there that we can do to there's so many changes. There's so many phenomenally brilliant people out there these days and technology, like you just mentioned, I don't see any reason why these things can't happen. One thing that I always think about clearly every day, because of my injuries is I wish that somebody could find a cure for spinal cord injuries, like Red Bull Wings for Life took over the Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation, because one of the founders of Red Bull, his son got paralyzed, I think it was in a dirt bike accident or something. So they're starting to fund more of these things. And I think those, the level of financial investment as well as the research and development can go a long way if people are doing that, instead of just the medical industry. So that I really commend you for being able to put forth the effort for making the human body better, like yeah, the the the so the, the stuff that I'm funding is we're not focused on the what's the right word, we're not focused on the innovation, there's so much good research nrN already been done. That's already outlined what we need to do, oh, you're focused on the solution. I'm focused on the implementation of the existing research has done our data that's already been done. And so right now, the problem is, is that this is an amazing amount of great research, it doesn't go anywhere. It doesn't go beyond animal testing, it doesn't go beyond petri dish testing is exactly the same thing that happens with the spinal cord injury stuff. Yeah. So you know, I'm not looking to come out with a drug that's going to go through the FDA or anything like that, I'm looking to figure it out, and then give it to you give it to me give it to whoever wants it, basically, do it as like a one person at a time type of a situation, I'm not looking to roll it out to a billion people. Because that's going to take too long, I mean, plus, then you start getting into trouble. Well, it's just you know, when if you make if you make something that's going to work for everybody, it's going to, it's going to end up. You can't You can't actually make a curative because there's no money. Once you go that, that far into it, there's not going to be any money, you just can't do it. But you can you can do it in a more of a cottage industry type fashion, and and take the existing research, test it out, get it to a point where it's ready for human testing, and then take it yourself as well as what I'm talking about. Do you ever? First of all, I think that's fantastic. I commend you so much for being able to do that. I would love to see even more than you're raising stuff personally, on a personal level, I would love to see these things come to fruition, because I think that could help with so many people. So exciting. It's a credibly exciting thing about it. It really is unbelievable. And do you ever look back on on? I mean, clearly, you're excited about moving forward. And you've already said a million times that you don't have the best memory. But do you ever look back on the things that we've talked about tonight, and you know, let's just say you're sitting in bed getting ready to go to sleep and go, Wow, I have all these things on the horizon. But I've already done all of these cool things to be able to give me the opportunity to go ahead and accomplish these new goals and things like that and really look back at your life and appreciate it. No, man, I'm not really like a forward thinker. Yeah, it's it's unfortunately, I just I'm not good at looking back. I'm only like so fixated on the presence and moving forward, maybe looking back is the wrong way. I guess we'd be appreciative more because just sitting here having the opportunity to speak with you for just these couple hours is just blown my mind as to the amount that a human can accomplish and put forward in life not just for themselves, but for everybody around them to move industries forward to move sports forward to move life in general forward. It is so cool to be able to have a conversation like that. Thank you. So Alright, well we're gonna get past a little bit of that heavy information and we're just going to go into a rapid fire q&a and why now in the show. Okay. So I got some secret questions here for you. Let's see here. Some of them our audiences already actually heard so rapid fire q&a. dunes or the river dunes, your golden dunes in a UTV What do you take out their dirt bike? no dirt bike sucks. Hey, now when you send it, man, it's got to be four wheel drive. So let's say let's just take the pro four. Yeah, have you taken out there yet? Or no, no. No like to one of these days? Yes. Three Wheeler or quad? quad? Gone quad. Yeah, four wheels, right. Let's see. Do you watch Supercross motocross. I like to I don't do it as much as I'd like. Do you know any of the new like Tomek? Yeah, there you go. Okay, so tomeka Roxanne Tomek go on tarmac. All right. I thought you'd pick a orange guy like a KTM guy. Just for some reason. I like Tomek. Yeah, I just because he's like a just a all out balls out guy maybe got a personality match. He seems a little decently he's just like he's like once he if he can get if he can get going. Yes, he's good. Yeah, the horsepower is rolling right then. Hmm. Little Smokies or pizza rolls. I don't even know what that is little Smokies are the little like hotdog weenies and then pizza rolls or pizza rolls. You know, pizza rolls. All right, neither. Neither. Okay, too healthy for you. Coffee or tea. Tea. Favorite soda. Dr. Pepper. Oh, that's a good one. And I heard the other day too. At Ryan bead shop. I went in there and I said, What do you guys want to drink? He goes, dude, it's all for Dr. Pepper. Don't you know? Oh, really? I didn't know. It was a cliche. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. When I said the same thing. I'm like, fuck everybody. I'm like, Dr. Pepper, too. So if you could have any superpower, what would it be? This is gonna be a good one for you. What would it be? Actually? That's it. Yeah, the superpower is basically to create a force field. Really? Yeah, impenetrable force field, and the bubble just around you or like for an entity or something, just the ability to make it and then you can just, you know, put force fields around whatever you want. That's actually be pretty cool. And the bubble is basically a low tech Corman's. forcefield. I mean, that's what I've really come from. I really liked I've been thinking, I've got to figure out this damn, forcefield I'd like to, like shit. You know? I just I just don't have the brains for it. But I really want one. Oh, man, that's actually really good. I can promise you that. We're not going to have an answer like that. Again, eggs are crocs. It's not the same thing. Well, I appreciate that. You don't know. bugs are the girly boots. And then crocs are like those rubber sandals. Let's check stuff out. Yeah, it's a little bit out of your wheelhouse. most memorable race. And this might not even be a pro for race. Maybe. I was gonna say it's actually not a pro for race. It was club racing back in the East Coast. Right when I first got going up. Now it's not East Coast was Canada went really Canada. It wasn't a spec racer. And it was me and this guy. And I was just like, you remember what car you were in? Or no, this is a spec racer? No. Oh, it was a spec racer. I don't know. It's like, the coolest spec racer kind of looks like a cannamd. Like from the 70s or whatever. It's just like a 1.8 liter engine. And it was mean this guy. And we were just going at it. We were swapping the lead. And we were just weaving because it was it was a club event. So basically, like, all the cars were on the track. And whether it be an open wheel, whether it be a spec racer, whether it be like to do the 24 hours a month. Yeah, yeah. So it's kind of like that, except it was on a it was a club day. And it was just, it was like poetry. It got to the point where it didn't matter who won. It was just so exciting to be really dicing with this dude. And just, you know, we just like to lap the field. Because it was it was just club level. And it just, it just felt like just felt so exhilarating to be weaving in and out of all this traffic and going around everybody, while at the same time racing each other and not crashing each other. That is so cool. It's like you were both in the zone. We talked about that all the time on the show, man. I love that feeling. It just gives like gives me goosebumps just thinking about it now. Yeah. Do you ever wish to go back to club racing like that? or asphalt? No. Once you once you start flying through the air in these trucks is just like once you live that dirt life You never go back. Oh man. It's just this extra dimension. And this is you know, the four wheel drive. Come on. I mean, geez, do you think you would have the ambition to still do like the stunts and stuff like that? Had you not ever got into the the offroad scene? Yes. 100% You would? Yeah. Okay, let's see. Favorite Flavor of ice cream Good question. Probably min chip matchup? Yeah, we're talking about cliche dude. Dogs and cats or dogs or cats. Love both bad cats. You're going cats. Ah, you have one? I do have a once in a lifetime kit down in the Virgin Islands actually. Oh, right. Oh, yeah, he's living the lifetime hmm yeah, I don't feel right bringing him here to be with me in California because he's way overestimates himself. Oh, yeah. He gets snapped up by a Dingo. I wouldn't call them coyotes. Yeah, okay. Let's see, Netflix or YouTube. should say to YouTube because it's more interesting Stevie better. You got to say Netflix. If you want them. pick you up right? But I ended up watching quite a bit of Netflix Yeah. burrito or taco. taco. Well this one is different let's tell you're gonna pick it. I'm gonna This is the question is Supercross motocross but let's switch it up. I don't want to give you want to chicken pick How about monster trucks or f1? Because I know you like flying, but you also like the technology. Okay, maybe give me a little bit like one more clue on that. So like, do we talking? Am I gonna get to drive? Am I gonna get to race it's your sport you can get in the steering or in the driver's seat. You can be a pit crew chief. We can do whatever you want. You just have to pick one f1 or monster trucks. Yeah, that's a really rough on because my original desire in life was to be an f1. So I have to say f1. But then, but then now. I come. I'm a little bit more interested in monster trucks. Yeah, I don't know what I've had this like, weird obsession with monster trucks last couple years to I don't know what it is. Maybe it's toddler Dukes changing the game for us? I don't know. Let's see here. What other Well, okay, I guess this is gonna answer the question that we just had. What other form racing? Would you like to try? Actually, you know, what, what if it's like Red Bull air racing or something because you like to fly. I actually I don't really like to fly. Just have these damn dreams that I have to. Like, I'm really I'm actually not into heights at all. But I just know it can be done. So I have to go do it. Another form of racing. You know what's, what's really fun is there's actually a couple different types of racing those those jet boats we like go on that zigzag course. Oh, yeah, I forgot somebody actually answered the same answer gave me the same answer a few shows ago. So that that's one but then there's also when they like you if you lose a corner you go up on the grass. Yeah, yeah, that looks fucking fancy. It looks. It's super fun. I mean, and inside car racing looks super fun, too. I mean, this actually is a couple different types of racing. There's one other type of racing that like to do if you're the sidecar. You go on there the driver Still though? Like hanging off the side? Yeah, that would be kind of fun. How sticky helmet on the ground scrape you scrape your face. Have you seen the dudes that do that on a motocross track where they hit in those big ass tabletops and shit. It's Yeah, it is. It's fucking crazy. They have like, kind of like a razor grab bar that they hold on to and they're in a little cage. And they'll they'll drag the rider will or driver whatever you call it will hit the jumps like a 80 foot table top and just launch it and the other do to like lean in the air and correct it. It's awesome. Wow, I've never seen that. Hey, you're gonna have to check it out on YouTube. Alright, so within one other thing, which is that that Iceland, you seen in Iceland that those ridiculously powered vehicles that do hill climbs like, and those are just no vehicles. And like, I don't know what they are. But they just got ridiculous amount of powers. And they do hill climbs in these in these. These vehicles and it's just, it's just over the top. Literally. I would like to see that. I don't know. Maybe somebody in the comments could link up a video or something so I could check it out later. Yeah, Todd made monster trucks. Cool. David said and john lewis said they're called sprint boats. Sprint boats. Sprint boats or hill climbing and Iceland. I got to check that out. Yeah, that looks like it'd be pretty sweet. Okay, last question of the night man. Chips and guacamole or french fries and ketchup. French fries. You go on french fries. Dude, I think you're the second person ever to answer french fries. Oh, hell no. It's good. French fries now. Good. French fries. A gold. Like it's got to be good french fries. Yeah, it gotta be shitty. McDonald's one's correct. You got to be like, minute, your starting point would be like having burger french fries. Happy burger. I don't think I've ever had french fries there. Oh, wait, I take that back. I had them at the TV World Championship. But that doesn't count because it's a food truck. Yeah, definitely. Good. Alright, so first of all, I really appreciate that, that you took the time let us come hang out at your at your shop here. It's really awesome to see all the stuff that you're doing. And like I said before, man, I am completely amazed by the person that you are like it is just, I had no idea who you really were. And that's the whole point of this show is I saw Adrian Chaney at the track. I thought you're great racer, of course. wild man. And now just getting to be able to hear your story a little bit and we didn't even get in any of the business accolades that you have or anything like that. But the brief story that we heard for the last couple hours is phenomenal. Dude, it really is. Thanks. Thanks for getting me to open up a little bit because I'm, I'm really not much of a talker. Yeah, here a Dewar? We can tell that. Well keep doing what you're doing, man. I appreciate it. You did a fantastic job on this interview. Do you want to thank any of your sponsors. I know you got a couple of the men but before we thank all the show sponsors Yeah. I think I've touched on everybody. Oh, here we go. Yeah, he's showing some of these trucks and stuff for the Icelandic off road. I'm gonna check out. Thanks, john, for doing that, I'm gonna check out some of these things. Oh, is looks like both of them, David and john sent over some of these videos. So if you guys want, if you're listening on the audio versions on iTunes or Spotify or any of those networks, please go over to our Facebook page and check out some of these links that some of the audience members have posted. And we can check out some of this Iceland racing to Yeah, so I do want to mention a couple of new sponsors for this year, which is motul lubricants. Oh, right on. Yeah. And they have and they're very well known. And they've got really good products. So that's exciting. And then northern chill. This is a natural, alkaline spring water from actually pretty close to Crandon. Yeah, the north woods of Wisconsin. It tastes really good. And yeah, I actually have had some good conversations with Lee over in order chill as well. So thank you, Leo, for doing the shout outs. Leo. Yeah, yeah, definitely try it and pick up coffee does taste good. Like I was drinking whatever bottle I got at the gas station earlier in this year, it's way better. Well, alcohol alkalinity, you know, that's something that I've been very into for several years. And it's, it's basically it's just about balancing out because most of the stuff that that we drink is a little bit on our drink, most of the stuff that we consume is acidic, right? And your body has to be in balance of seven, I think 7.2 7.4 on the so all this does is like you'd have to change anything about your diet or anything. But if you just at least drink alkaline water, it raises your pH level. Yeah. Then you balancing some of that. Some of the, the basically the lopsided acidity that would that we consume, and says it's just helping your body out. It's not like it's not magic. It's just balancing act. That's all it is. Dude, I can't wait to talk with you one of these days at lunch. Cuz like, I mean, even drinking soda dehydrates you so much. And nobody knows that kind of stuff. Like it's crazy. Um, you got other people on the list, too. I don't think I touched on the other ones. Man, it's cool to see that so many people are behind all of the projects that you're doing. I mean, like, you met most of these people, right? racing, right? You build up your name and racing. But when we live in 2020, and 2019 is just crazy years, all of these new things that you're trying to do. And Travis Toronto is a good person to look at. He was a professional racer, and now he does different things that are, I don't know, wowing the world, I guess you could say right, and you're doing the same thing, man. So it's cool to see all those people get on board with you. Yeah, yeah, I kinda that's what the like the, you know, when he when Travis did the double backflip, like for the first time? Yep, mind blowing, was that oh, my God, I roll out of that. Unbelievable, he nailed that thing. Like, it was so perfect. When he first did it, too. He's like a super human being, though. And I kind of feel like you are in the same way. In the same sense, man, it's, it's cool to see that there's humans like that, pushing the envelope, as I feel like the double barrel is gonna be the same way like Did you know The single barrel obviously was was exciting it you know, it hasn't, it hasn't been replicated a true 360 degree. But now you got to do a 720. I mean, that's just as ridic I would love to be able to see. And understand this, you're a little bit more of a private person, you just want to go out and execute these things. But I would like to see maybe we can pull some of the audience on social media, and things like that, maybe send a couple messages over to add The Dirt Life Show on whether you would like to see Adrian be a little bit more open about maybe some of the research and development and trying to execute some of these projects, maybe the double barrel roll would be a good one for us to cover since it has to do with dirt. And maybe we can help them out promoted a little bit and show you guys a little bit more of the behind the scenes stuff that goes into it. Because I think it'd be really cool for people to see similar to what Travis does at his facility up there in Maryland. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not I'm not as good about I guess marketing and publicizing The, the some of the mind blowing stuff, but I am pretty confident that the things that that that we're working on, I think are actually doable. Bigger. Yeah. Like to me, like, you know, like that freefall project or the double barrel. I mean, I think it's easier to do a double backflip than it is to do double barrel. Yeah, honest. So that's just my perspective on the access point is so much different man. And I couldn't agree more. I mean, like, we could talk about all these things for days. But I do appreciate that you're opening up and trying to get out there a little bit more and share some of these rad things that you're doing. So let us know what you guys want to hear we go yeah, John's already saying oh my behind the scenes of that planning process, and research that goes into all those things would be awesome. Well, we'll try to see if maybe we could get Adrian to let us in and do some of that stuff. Alright, so I just want to thank all of you guys for watching. You guys did an amazing job. Asking questions and joining us tonight. We really want you guys to join us on social media and go over there and follow on. I don't have wild man cheney on Instagram, but what was the you have cine racing? cine racing? Yeah, yeah, JT racing. So we tagged him in a couple stories and a couple of our posts, so please go and give him a follow on watch all the fantastic stuff that he's doing and go to my only fan site to go check out his only fans. He's changing the game for only fans to he's not taking off clothes. He's putting on a rubber outfit or a rubber ball and he's gonna fall to Sky or something. Yeah. Oh, yeah, this show is gonna go in a way different direction if we keep on that. So Well, thank you very much Adrian for for joining us. We really appreciate you guys, like I said, again, communicate through social media. That's the best bet. And we've had given so many messages. I mean, our numbers have tripled, quadrupled in the last couple months here. It's been such a well received. Understanding and my part coming to California having all these fantastic guests and having stories like Adrian's has just been so incredibly awesome that you guys are loving this. So we really appreciate you guys we want to hear all the positive messages we want to hear you want who you want us to interview and we want to hear all the questions for those people. So please give a shout out to all of our sponsors to you can use the code dirt life with the guys over at shock therapy that shock therapist calm you can use the code dirt life at zone your racing products comm to order some parts from those old racing boys, you can use the code duralife at solder weld comm to get some solder weld off road repair kits. Thank you very much the guys over at cryo heat and always a huge huge thank you to the guys that KMC wheels and FX tires. They have been on board with us since day one. So we couldn't appreciate them anymore. Man we have such awesome guests lined up next week. Like I said before at the beginning of the show, we got the boys from Dune and destroy gonna come on. So we're going to talk about maybe I'll tell them that you want to take a pro for to the den and and see what they think about that. So yeah, it'll be fun to talk with. I think john and Kyle are going to be in the studio up in Lake Elsinore. So please hang out again. Thank you very much, Adrian Shani, we really appreciate you coming and hanging out. Thanks, George. And thank you guys all for watching. We will see you guys next week. Thank you guys. Good night. Thanks for listening to The Dirt Life Show.