The Dirt Life
The Dirt Life
Jeremy McGrath - In Depth - Bella's Corner
Rev up your engines and tune in for a high-octane episode where we swap stories with off-road racing titans and uncover the secrets to their adrenaline-fueled success. We kick things into gear with Chase Carr, discussing his seamless transition from motocross to four-wheel fury, offering a rare peek under the helmet of a versatile racer. Then, hang tight as I recount my own dust-churning tale at the Red Bull Scramble, sharing the unexpected triumphs and heart-pumping action that come with defying the odds and the underdog title in one of the most demanding races around.
Buckle up for a nostalgic ride with motocross superstar Jeremy McGrath, who brings his championship charm to our episode, spilling the beans on life post-Supercross and his foray into nurturing the next wave of racing prodigies. We'll take a trip down memory lane with Jeremy's reflections on the iconic "knack-knack," fierce rivalries, and the evolution of his storied career—a treasure trove of anecdotes for fans and newcomers alike. This isn't just about the wins; it's about the spirit of competition and the timeless memories made on the track.
Closing out, we shift from high-speed tales to the heartfelt narrative of integrating family and passion, underscoring how motorsports can be a shared adventure that transcends generations. We also shatter the myths of the carefree athlete, revealing the grit and grind behind the glory. This episode is a testament to the enduring allure of motorsports, the strength of partnerships, and the relentless drive to pursue what sets your soul on fire. So, if you're craving a dose of inspiration with a side of dirt, you've found your starting line.
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Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, George Hamill.
Speaker 3:Welcome to the Dirt Life Show. I'm Bella Richard, your host. This is my co-host, george. Hi guys, we are filming episode 8 of Bella's Corner, so pretty excited. Right now we're in two different states so we kind of pulled some strings, made things work, but I think we got everything figured out and hopefully we can thank some sponsors and get rolling into who we're going to interview. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4:You want me to break the ice a little bit. I got some funny things to talk about For sure. I'd love to. So first of all, you got an awesome show, but I'm in a van and I just spent 81 on tamales to bring them to all of our friends, and it smells fantastic that's lucky so uh, okay. So, uh, since we're doing this remotely, do you want to let everybody know who's going to be on the show today, and then we can start letting people in?
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure. So we're going to get the ball dropping with Chase Carr, my good friend Jeremy McGrath, thor Herbst from Herbst Motorsports and Cruz Bruchard.
Speaker 4:So I had a couple people talking to me and they were like, oh my god, bella got the king on. How'd she do it?
Speaker 3:and I was like, well, bella's starting to be a little media mogul over here yeah, well, thank god he's my good friend, but I definitely pretty excited for this one. I think we got some good conversations with everybody, so hopefully we can just get to talking okay, sounds good.
Speaker 4:So, all right, why don't you thank the sponsors that we have in common, and then I'll thank ours and we'll get going?
Speaker 3:yeah, for sure I'd love to thank evolution power sports um kmc wheels and motul um, so all great partners.
Speaker 4:They've been on board pretty much since day one, so it's really cool to have everybody on board. Uh, the guys over at evolution power sports uh, I got their T-shirt on Great logo and also making tons of power. If you guys are getting ready for summer, you guys can also talk to them about getting some tuning for your jet skis. They've been doing a lot of jet ski stuff, so that's super, super cool. Kind of a little bit off the off-road topic, but it's still rad. Thanks to the guys over at Maxxis Tires you can see the Maxxis hat in the background.
Speaker 4:Thank you very much to the guys over at Shock Therapy. You can always use the code DIRTLIFE at shocktherapycom and save yourself some money on any of those parts. They save you a good discount too. Thanks to the guys at JL Audio, always keeping us rocking. Thank you very much to the guys at zolander racing products. You can always get, uh, something from them as well to match up with all the shock therapy products that you have. So, uh, you can use the code at the dirt life at zolander racing productscom.
Speaker 4:all right, bell, who's our first guest?
Speaker 3:our first guest is chase car, so let me give him his rad introduction. Um, chase car is 16 years old, from Canyon Lake, california, competing in landing podium spots in big races like the Red Bull, scramble, mid-america and BITD. He continues to add to his hardware collection. What's up, chase?
Speaker 5:How are you?
Speaker 3:I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 5:Good, I'm at the dirt bike track at the moment.
Speaker 4:No really yeah, Dude, I'm at the dirt bike track at the moment. No, really yeah, Dude, I'm jealous. Look what I got to do. I got to do some training today. Check that bad boy out.
Speaker 5:I'm trying to keep myself busy this offseason dude.
Speaker 4:How is it? Are you guys riding right now, or are you just out there cheering on your homies?
Speaker 5:No, I got here at 510-ish and I'm going to hop on here really fast and then go throw down a couple motos. You know, get arm pump in the first three laps, but it's fine.
Speaker 4:What bike are you riding right now?
Speaker 5:It's a YZ250F 2023.
Speaker 4:Oh damn, really, How's that?
Speaker 5:It's fun. Actually, I haven't had any problems with it. Knock on wood.
Speaker 4:That sounds good. I love the last YZ250F.
Speaker 5:I had. I haven't had any problems with it.
Speaker 4:Knock on wood, Dude. That sounds good. I love it. Last YZ250F I had was 2008,. I think.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I was a little skeptical about going to them because I've been a KTM boy growing up like forever, but no, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4:Dude D Smoke's calling you out.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I know. I know, I had a bike for him, but he didn't show up. Oh no, I had a bike for him, but he didn't show up.
Speaker 4:I think he's a scared one Dude. Yeah, that's pretty weak. You can't call somebody out if you're a no-show.
Speaker 3:I know that kind of rolls into one of my questions. For sure I know you have a past in two wheels and stuff, but kind of doing that transition from two wheels to four wheels and then back to two wheels again getting on the track, how has that been?
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, I mean, I've grown up racing a lot of things, so coming from moto, I mean honestly it really helps a lot when I got behind the wheel. Between that and like going through go karts and jet skis, they're all you know relatively not not the same, but they're all. They're all close in their ways.
Speaker 4:So, no, definitely coming from moto helped me out a lot with my line choices and like gauging jumps and you know everything that that gets thrown your way and, uh, in a short course race, it definitely helps out a lot, even though, like because you kind of dabble in moto too, riding pit bikes and stuff, you can probably both agree with what the comment I'm going to say and that's like the hand-eye coordination that dirt bike guys have and off-road guys have.
Speaker 3:Like a lot of people don't have that and it seems like it's natural for chase yeah, for sure, being able to take from something like a two-wheel and four-wheel being so different, but applying them to each other is like crazy deal that not a lot of people can do, so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, definitely I, uh, I enjoy uh, not just racing razors. Obviously, that's what I want to do when I grow up. But expanding my horizon is uh what I've been focusing on, and uh see where it takes me, I guess.
Speaker 3:Yeah for sure, even kind of spanning your horizon with. You know the different series you've been racing. I know you did the Red Bull Scramble last year too, but kind of give us a rundown of how it went this year. I know it was pretty successful.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, unfortunately last year I wasn't of age to do it, so we went out there with a car to race but fortunately couldn't do it.
Speaker 5:No, this year was a uh, it was a lot of fun. It was definitely a, a curveball in the opposite direction of what I was thinking. To be honest, I I didn't want to do it. I thought I was going to be the underdog showing up with a car that was almost a thousand pounds heavier than what I was racing against. And you know, I've I've grown up watching corbin race my whole life and all these other people that were there. They're definitely no one to slouch on. But no, it was uh, it was a really fun time. It was a great event, and especially being out there on like vacation, getting to ride my dirt bike and then going to race through the dunes.
Speaker 4:It was uh, it was a lot of fun yeah, chase, do you ever get like when you're out there racing? Well, actually, the red bull scramble is a perfect event, a perfect example. Like your moto background, you can see things that a lot of dudes can't right like. If there's a guy that's like changing lines and like he's a four-wheel guy, right like, you can be like oh, I know something that he doesn't you could cut under or like square up or like do something. Could you ever notice that stuff?
Speaker 5:oh, yeah, for sure. You know, at the red bull scramble we had no practice so we were going out there blind and it was. You know. The one person I didn't want to get put up against was Corbin in the heat race because, I'm going to be honest, I was a little nervous. I thought he was going to wax me. But you know, that moto background honestly helped me a lot out there. I got out to man. I don't remember if I hole shot or not. I don't think I did. I shot and run. I don't think I did. I was behind corbin, I followed him for the first lap and I slowly started figuring out lines that were like a lot faster, which, honestly, I shouldn't have used them, because I mean that let corbin in on some, uh, some fast lines, but no, uh, motos definitely helped me out a lot with that. Yeah, yeah, you got it. You can't give away your secrets, bro. I know I gave him way too fast and it bit me in the butt.
Speaker 3:That's kind of what we talked about last episode. What was that, George?
Speaker 4:It's all about timing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true. No, we got to hear Corbin's perspective from the race compared to your perspective. So being able to put both of those together and kind of just getting a wide you know of how the race went was super cool, especially because I couldn't be there to watch it.
Speaker 5:But you know it was. It was super cool, especially because I couldn't be there to watch it. But you know it was. Uh, it was a lot of fun. You know I, like I said, I've grown up watching Corbin and Cody race my whole life and, uh, you know, I've never exactly been in the same class or the same level as them, so being able to race against him was obviously pretty cool. But you know, like I said, I showed up to uh a big event with a car that I honestly didn't think that I was going to be able to do well in, and you know there's a lot of people that doubted me. But I mean, I listened to my dad and my grandpa and they said you might have a chance at winning. So I went out there and drove that thing as hard as I could, but you know also, I had a lot of faith.
Speaker 5:Grandpa kind of forced me to do it, but I'm glad I did. You know it was an awesome event. But I mean, even the thought in the back of my head of being like the first race was King of the Hammers. We had a little malfunction that took us out early in the race, did a pretty good prep on it and went straight to the Mint. I mean, we didn't have any expectations, we just wanted to get a good finish this year and ending up to pull off a fourth overall in the Mint 400 was a pretty good pat on the back. And then we came into the Red Bull race. Honestly, no prep on it at all. I threw an air filter and cleaned out the clutches and threw on a belt and she handled for sure. But no, I'm not going to let Cormie get away with this one. He's getting it next time.
Speaker 3:Being the circumstance that you're right, that car is a lot heavier and you know you didn't really. You went out there not knowing quite what to expect yet, so that's a pretty big deal.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, exactly. I mean that car is no slouch. It blew my expectations, keith and my dad and everyone that was involved with that build, and even the new build it's yeah, honestly they blew my mind. The new polaris pro r platforms are what I think are unbeatable. I mean it's proven, we've, uh, we've, we've overall. I mean utvs have overalled silver state this year. I mean look at mitch guthrie in this polaris pro r last year he, uh, second place overall, almost overalled it yeah, for sure, the builds are getting more crazy and crazy as we get older.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's pretty wild to see, but chase is being kind of humble, though too bella, like, because it takes a lot to be able to drive a car. That's like, has anybody ever told you guys bringing the right tool for the job like chase kind of like he had a dull knife, so to speak, right like he didn't have a sharp knife to make the cut like, but he still managed it and quote unquote gets the job done right like that tells a lot about the driving skill and the ability for him to be able to adapt like there's very few people that can do that. And chase is well, he's got a lot of experience, but doing all the things that he does dirt bike racing and racing these different cars and stuff gives him that talent.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's kind of just testing what you can do and pushing yourself to the limits.
Speaker 5:Yeah, exactly. I mean sometimes you got to step out of your comfort zone and go do stuff that you honestly can't think. That I mean you're going to win. But I'm glad I went out there. I met some really cool people.
Speaker 4:And I mean, hopefully one day we can get that Red Bull deal. Yeah, does it ever change your attitude? Like you're like, oh crap, like I don't know I'm bringing a desert car to a short course race or whatever, and you're like there's no way, like, or do you just be like you know what, I don't even care, I'm gonna go out there and kill it no, I mean, I was definitely bummed out, I'm.
Speaker 5:we decided, uh, at about 2 pm on Thursday that we were going to do it because, honestly, I just didn't want to do it at all. Yeah, but no, I'm very glad that I went out there and did it. Like I said, those pro hours are no slouch. They are proven to be the best so far.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure. Even just building it and the way you guys have made a strong car and, you know, being able to go out there and test it for glenn helen, that was super cool to see.
Speaker 5:But yeah, no doubt you got a new short course car yeah, so we uh we actually just finished up a brand new pro r for uh short course. It's legal for every series, so she's a little on the heavier side, but no, that thing is a absolute blast to drive.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I bet I want to see it. I posted.
Speaker 5:I posted a couple of pictures. We're going to do some more stuff to it and I'll. I'll post some more up close pictures of it or I'll send them to you guys, but no. Keith and my dad it literally just popped up on my screen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, no, that it's pretty cool bro, that they did some uh aggressive yeah, that thing's a work of art.
Speaker 5:I'm very, uh, very excited to be behind the wheel of that and the opportunity to race that is uh unbelievable yeah, I'll be like, I'll be like every fanboy.
Speaker 4:How fast does it go?
Speaker 5:So I mean it's hard to tell. I have a Micron in it but running different sized tires it throws off the GPS speed a little bit. So at Glen Helen it claims that I was hitting near 90s.
Speaker 4:Dang dude.
Speaker 5:That was after the finish line, which was a little scary. I uh, you know the concrete wall after turn one of the finish line at glenhellen. Yeah, I gave that thing a little love tap. I came in a little too long it was. It was almost bad one, but I got out of it somehow dude, you're like a f1 driver just kissing the wall.
Speaker 5:Well, after the finish line jump I tried to cut to the inside really hard but I almost went for a bad ride. So I turned out of it and the wall was the next thing on the list to hit.
Speaker 3:Dude, that's crazy. You got to hit a wall here and there. I don't want to hit a wall. I got a little too much experience with hitting walls, walls I almost ripped off the same tire you do don't do that my dad probably would have killed me if I did brand new car plus.
Speaker 4:If you hit that wall, you're going in that ditch oh yeah, no, it's uh grumpy gramps would have killed you, that's for sure.
Speaker 5:I was watching the GoPro footage back last night. My grandpa the only thing he said to me before the race was don't scratch it.
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 5:I didn't scratch it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, I do want to know one thing what do you got going on in the future for you? What is your next big races?
Speaker 5:And kind of just, what's your plan? So, uh, right now we are getting the desert car, we've fully stripped it down, it's getting, uh, it's getting a very good prep. So, uh, the plan is to bring it back out in april to, uh, vegas torino, sorry and uh, I mean, we'll see where we can stack up there. Like I said, our goal this year with a brand new car is just to go out there and get a respectable finish and obviously finish the race first.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:No, that's our plan right now, and I'm currently trying to talk my dad into taking me all the way down to Crandon. I want it to be in the books, but, man, it's a far drive.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that definitely works.
Speaker 4:I would love to see you out there, dude. That is such an amazing event.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean I really want to go out there but I've really never raced against any of those guys and from what I've heard it's it takes a lot to get used to to go out there and race something like that, like setup wise, and you you know, obviously clutching, suspension, everything different clutching, you're gonna need bigger tires for more top speed and you're just gonna have to be full wood the whole time.
Speaker 5:That's what I've heard. I guess, uh and the utbs they don't let off around that big old turn down the hill. No, dude, you don't let off anywhere.
Speaker 4:Those tracks are fast dude, like you're just wooded the whole time you'd have fun though, all right, all right, but we got to get Jeremy on.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, for sure. Well, it was good talking to you, Chase.
Speaker 5:Thank you, thank you guys, for having me. I really appreciate it for coming on.
Speaker 3:I really appreciate it. Keep crushing it, yeah.
Speaker 5:Thank you, I appreciate it. Have a good rest of your day, guys.
Speaker 4:Thank you.
Speaker 3:We want Jeremy on when we do the intro. I'm going to invite him real quick. Chase is going to go hit some laps right now.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's true, we're going to have Jeremy McGrath come. What's up?
Speaker 3:Jeremy.
Speaker 2:What's up, you guys, how are you doing?
Speaker 3:I'm good. How are you Doing?
Speaker 4:good Cruising along Real quick. I want to try to try to post screen time, hey, uh. So, jeremy, I first wanted to say, um, obviously, thank you very much for, you know, letting the kids handle all this stuff. It's super cool that they're doing it. So let's get, uh, bella, a chance to give you a proper intro. Bud, bud.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no worries, I'm excited to chat with you guys. It's going to be cool.
Speaker 3:Me too. So Jeremy McGrath is from Encinitas. Jeremy is a seven-time AMA Supercross champion with an impressive record 72 Premier Class wins, the King of Supercross Pro 2 Off-Road Champion in Lucas Oil Series and multiple X-Game medalist.
Speaker 4:Jeremy McGrath. That was proper Bella in Lucas Oil Series and multiple X-Game medalists.
Speaker 2:Jeremy, that was proper Bella.
Speaker 3:I like it. I did my research on you, so Nice work, nice work.
Speaker 4:Hey.
Speaker 3:Bella, did you know that Jeremy had a song written for him too?
Speaker 2:Are you serious. That is funny. So here's the story behind that. Years ago I used to race. When I was racing amateur motocross, there was a guy named jason edwards from texas and he was a friend of ours and he was a rapper. Like he was this kid that liked to rap and he was actually a pretty awesome rider. Um, he was like intermediate when we were a classclass riders. Then he made a rap when I first signed with Factory Honda. I think it was 1993. For me.
Speaker 2:It's kind of weird to listen to that stuff, because you're like, this is a rap song about me which is pretty funny, as funny as it is. I recently listened to it again and I showed rowan and uh, they were just cracking up.
Speaker 3:So oh, could you imagine having someone write a song about you?
Speaker 4:that's insane I'm trying to find it. Did you find it on youtube?
Speaker 2:uh, you know what I think? I saw it YouTube, but it was in an old video.
Speaker 4:Oh, it was Okay.
Speaker 2:I think it was in man, I don't know. I don't know what it was, I can't even recall I think I was. What was I? Messing around on YouTube looking at some old races, you know, and then, boom, I stumbled across it.
Speaker 4:So anyway, yeah, it was a good song too. What's your guys' questions, Belle.
Speaker 3:Oh, I got a lot, a lot of questions.
Speaker 2:All right, let's do it.
Speaker 3:Let's get into it. But I kind of want to get into everything because I know you're not just the king of Supercross, you are a dad, you're a mentor, you know you're doing a bunch of other things in the industry. But kind of after retiring and ending your Supercross career and closing that chapter, what have you accomplished so far, what have you been working on and what are you most excited to show us?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean it's so funny to say, but my motocross and supercross career was was fairly long right for for for the lifespan of really a motocross guy. Yeah, most all the kids are pretty young when they start and they retire when they're. If they can get to retirement, they still retire at a pretty young age. Um, I ended up, I don't know. You know I didn't start racing until I was 14. So I think maybe it just gave me a little bit longer window to race and so I retired when I was like 31 or 32 years old, which you know. Some of the guys that I looked up to, like Ricky Johnson and Johnny O'Mara and Ron Lachine and all these guys from the era before me, they all kind of retired like at 26, 27, sometimes 28, but never 30. Like 30 was like unheard of.
Speaker 2:So I feel fortunate that I got to race as long as I did and stayed healthy as long as I did. I mean that was a pretty dangerous sport. I mean, looking back on it now, that was pretty dangerous sport. I mean, looking back on it now, it's pretty darn amazing that I got through all those races with I would. I'm going to say, I'm going to go ahead and say at minimal injuries, you know like, compared to my friends that I raced with, the group of guys that I raced with, you know they, uh man, they, they seem to be hurt all the time. So I was lucky I got to.
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 2:Man, they seem to be hurt all the time, so I was lucky.
Speaker 2:I stayed on my bike quite a lot, which was nice. But since then I don't know no-transcript the like cool, really like the life that motocross and supercross, the lifestyle that it it allowed me to have. And so I was lucky. You know, again, I was pretty lucky in the way that, um, I kind of started being a little bit of an ambassador for honda at the time and then, uh, there really wasn't sort of an ambassador position at that time.
Speaker 2:I was kind of like creating this position just to stay involved and with my connection through monster and then my, you know my, when I was an amateur I was a team green rider and so for the last seven years I've been Kawasaki brand brand ambassador and what that means is basically just doing different events, uh, different photo shoots, doing some different testing. You know this is with bikes with, with side by sides with uh sort of everything uh involved with kawasaki and um, I host that science of supercross show that uh has been fairly successful over the last five, six, six years during the program for Supercross. And then I'm just raising my girls, rowan and Bergen, who you know very well, obviously, and just trying to stay involved in this sport. I just love it so much.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6:That's super cool. What's up, chris? What up Jeremy? That hat's looking sharp, son, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, it.
Speaker 4:This is Chris Meyer from Max's Tires. Chris wanted to just jump on and say hi to Jeremy. They haven't seen each other's faces in a few weeks.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, yeah, that's super cool.
Speaker 3:I know I to have you on. That's super cool.
Speaker 2:I know I fancy having you on Chris. It's cool.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. I was liking what I was listening to Hold on Did you see the photos from me and Adam. Dude.
Speaker 3:They are.
Speaker 6:Six.
Speaker 2:So we did a photo shoot. We did a Maxis photo shoot with Adam the other day. We shot my truck and I have these like 37-inch cool Maxis tires on there. What are they? Mts maybe.
Speaker 6:Maxis MTs. Yeah, you got MTs on the truck.
Speaker 2:And then on my van we have a. What is that one? It's the ATS.
Speaker 6:It's the all-terrain sport, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, there we go, you're dialed and they wait until we.
Speaker 6:Yeah, there it is, dude, that's one of the best dually builds I think I've ever seen. It's so sad.
Speaker 2:I have to say thank you to Icon for that one.
Speaker 4:Hey, did you do anything with the power plan or no?
Speaker 2:No, I mean, you don't have to. That thing can pull a house down. It's crazy.
Speaker 6:Dude, he towed like 72 side-by-sides to Johnson Valley with that thing. He was ripping all over the valley in that truck.
Speaker 2:That's my a princess. Yeah, it's not a mall crawler, it's not a mall crawler?
Speaker 6:Yeah, that's no mall crawler. That's right, exactly, dude, we should. Should we give something away on this broadcast?
Speaker 4:I'm thinking Jeremy, do you like giving things away?
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 6:I love what are we giving away? Chris, do you have any podium hats left over there? We could do like you could sign and we could send out.
Speaker 1:Hold on. No, I have some.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yep, wait a minute, I have those.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 6:Oh, that was prime. And ready, george is stacked up. Look at, that was prime and ready. Those were stacked up. Look at that, that bad boy out. Listen.
Speaker 4:So we didn't plan that at all. Jeremy, obviously, yeah, obviously. So Jeremy signed this Max's podium hat, which is limited edition. People can't get these unless they're a Max's athlete or ambassador. But Jeremy signed this what was almost a year ago, I think, at the Maxis Ride Day at Paris.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, you've had that for a little bit.
Speaker 3:I have plenty.
Speaker 2:If we want to give away more than one. I got plenty.
Speaker 4:Alright, so what do you think we should do to give this thing away? Bella, do you just want to pick a person in the comments, or what do you think?
Speaker 3:I think someone who comes up with the coolest question for Jeremy should get a room for it.
Speaker 4:Okay, so what should we do? Give it like five minutes? Whoever comes up with the coolest question in the next five minutes? Yep, all right, I like that.
Speaker 6:Oh, that's a pretty good start. Right there Will there be a new Steel Roots, jeremy, I saw that.
Speaker 2:Did you see our April Fool's post that we put on, and it was instead of Steel Roots it was called Gray Roots, meaning like gray hair, gray roots. That's awesome. People were like oh, I'll tell you right now, ronnie Renner, my buddy, who's another Maxis guy, yeah, he's like dude, we're doing it, we gotta do it, and uh, so, yeah, I mean, you never know, you never know what can happen. We can still, we can still throw a couple cross ups.
Speaker 6:You know, dude, that was that's it.
Speaker 4:Oh listen, still still a good look chris, listen to this comment real quick and tell me if you remember this. And jeremy, you too. Heavy equipment savage posted, said jeremy in 1994, honda cr poster, with you standing in front of a blue plate number one cr 250. Uh, where you're standing in front of a bulldozer with a giant, a giant bulldozer, yeah I don't remember that picture.
Speaker 2:How fun was that a badass photo shoot uh it, I just remember it because my hair was so funny in that photo, like like the sides were shaved and it was like whipped back with this funny wave. It was hilarious. It might be in my hallway here.
Speaker 6:I don't really know, but um uh I do remember that it's really really pretty cool. It's like a D9 or something.
Speaker 4:There's a bunch of cool questions coming in. Let's see here. So how many Z50s have you had? Is that?
Speaker 2:a good question. The answer is only two. I've had two that I bought new in 94 or 5, and I still have them.
Speaker 3:They still run like a champ.
Speaker 4:Those things are so reliable, right.
Speaker 3:Oh, man Was the first knack-knack on accident.
Speaker 2:Oh no, all right, here's the story on the first knack-knack. You guys all know that I came from a BMX background and one of my really good buddies his name is Eric Carter, he was like a top pro BMXer Like. He was like unbelievable Um, but he really loved dirt bikes. So we were riding dirt bikes and the knack knacks really a BMX trick. And uh, they have another trick that we all know is called the can can right. It's opposite of knack knack. So knack-knack's foot off the back, can-can is foot through the front.
Speaker 2:So I'm at my Supercross track at my parents' house off the freeway over there in Menifee and we just thought like, hey, let's try to figure out how to do a knack-knack on a dirt bike. And if you've seen, seen like really old pictures of the knack knack, it was kind of like the bike was straight and then it would. I would just kind of lean it over and stick my foot out the back and then over the years the way it evolved is you could go up off the jump and whip the bike and let the the rear end come around and then you could really extend the knack knack. And now obviously in today's versions there's a lot, you know. There's like big upside down whips, not whip, knack knacks, flip knacks, there's all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2:But the first knack knack was definitely not a trick. I I learned it started messing around with it at the end of 93 and then 94, uh, orlando, which is january, first round of supercross. It's the first time I ever did it live in front of fans and I did it in practice. And, uh, the team manager was all freaked out because he thought I was falling off the bike. So he ran back. He's like you gotta stop, you can't be doing that out here. So he was really, he was really freaked out and uh, so I didn't do it, I, I didn't do it, I didn't end up.
Speaker 2:I didn't end up having or needing to do it because orlando I finished fourth and the following week in houston I finished fifth and then anaheim I won, uh, and then I still was so flabbergasted that I won anaheim that I really didn't do the knack knack there either. But um, soon after is when I started doing it like on the, on either the final lap or the last jump of the race or whatever. So, um, that's kind of the year that it actually officially came out in racing.
Speaker 4:Bella, can you imagine it, though, because, like that was never done before, so it was like could you imagine how scary that would be for like a manager or like a team owner, like? Because it's like holy crap, what is this dude even doing?
Speaker 3:it wasn't talked about, it wasn't planned, nothing. It was just straight to.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna try it and see how people react yeah, I, I knew I had it from practicing it at home, but I didn't tell anyone about it and I was just kind of like, ah, and then just for fun, I did it and everyone freaked out like because no one's cameras were ready, it was just in practice, last lap of practice or something, and so really it's, really there might be one photo, like Davey Coombs might have one photo of this thing from Racer X, just randomly in the stands and they had the camera on me and I did it and they got it, but really there's not much proof of the very first mac mac on track, so it's pretty funny dang.
Speaker 3:We just got the whole behind the scenes and that's there's your lesson in.
Speaker 2:Uh, sometimes you got to uh just plan to apologize later, yeah exactly, had I had I told, had I told dave arnold I was gonna be like jumping off the back of my bike, he would have been like, absolutely, you're not doing that.
Speaker 4:What do they say? Ask for forgiveness, not for the future.
Speaker 6:Good point Chris Good point. Yeah that's brilliant Smart.
Speaker 4:We had a ton of questions already coming in. I'm just going to pick a couple of them right off the bat. Chris, it sounds like we're probably going to have to give away a few, a few extra hats, but uh again.
Speaker 6:Yeah, we will keep the king's supply all right, sounds good, so colton hearst asked.
Speaker 4:So, jeremy, who do you consider to be one of your favorite rivals, as in rivalry you enjoyed and helped push you to be better in your career, and then, adversely, do you have a one that wasn't your favorite?
Speaker 2:uh, well, it's well documented that emig was not my favorite, um, but he was almost. He was also like my closest competitor, right. So, um, you know, I I don't a lot of competitors kind of go by like, oh, like, like, like ricky johnson, who I really up to was the era before me, and he was always like mad at his competitors, you know, and that, right there, for me it just doesn't work. I'm friends with everyone. I like being friends with my competitors. Obviously, it's easier for me to be friends with them when I'm beating them, so that's a little easier.
Speaker 2:It's always the case, yeah, but at the same time, you know, I had a lot of friends on the track and I think when you're trying to win championships and win gather points and it's a long series I think you just really can't. You got to think about how many enemies you make along the way, because every week you're going to come across a new enemy. You know these are long series and if you start messing with people all the time, I found that it was a lot harder to you know, sort of either let that go or to quiet the conversation down, quiet the situation down. And again, I kind of seem to have a beef for a lot of years and we were running each other a lot. You know he was fast, so it was always seemed like we were together. He was a good starter.
Speaker 2:But you know, I don't know, I just felt like he was fast, so it was always seemed like we were together. He was a good starter, um, but uh, you know, I don't know, I just felt like he was kind of dangerous on the track back then. But anyways, we're, that's all grown up, he's fine now. It's like not a problem now. It's just like what we're racing. It was a little weird and uh, have you seen?
Speaker 4:but I think most of the friends on the track and I think that was that's pretty important have you seen some of the forums lately? Because that question kind of that statement kind of goes to what's happening right now in motocross, like I don't want to get in on it too hard, but like jason anderson's, like you want to portray me as the villain, I'll be the villain.
Speaker 2:Like I'm good, let's go yeah, yeah, I, I have been following that a little bit. Uh, you know, when you're always on the the, the short end of the stick when it comes to that stuff, you're always going to seem to be a little more mad than the guy that actually made the crash happen or made the pass or whatever. I was listening to James Stewart like post earlier today and I really don't see anything wrong with that pass. Yeah, it was aggressive. I mean, we know which passes are bad. Right, they're the ones that take the front wheel out, t-bone a guy do whatever, but they were body to body and what always happens in this situation is the guy on top can't put his foot out because the other guy is there. So, as much as it looked like a takeout, I mean he just filled the space and then he couldn't put his foot out, so he went down.
Speaker 3:It was interesting that he could have done it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think if you watch Jason's line, he didn't move up into Hunter's line. He filled the space and did a really nice job of staying low. But Hunter it looked like to me he just went slightly wide and then he couldn't put his foot out. So you know the circumstance didn't work out great for Hunter. I understand all that. But you know the Lawrence's are kind of the golden child right now of the sport. So I didn't see a black flag fly out. If Anderson would have done, if someone else would have done that, you know, when he was getting lapped, I'm sure the black flag would have come out. So I wasn't really stoked about the preference when it comes to that. They really frown on retaliation, um, the takeout's one thing, but then when you retaliate that's, that's like premeditated. So they really frown on that stuff but nothing really happens. So I don't know, they're kind of sending mixed messages a little bit about it, um, but I'm a fan of Anderson's style. I like Hunter too, but I like Anderson. I like how aggressive he is.
Speaker 6:I like the way he rides. He's fun to watch ride. He's different than everyone else. He's just the only guy to watch ride.
Speaker 2:I honestly think that his stuff is much more in control and, like say, barsha's stuff looks a lot more deliberate to me.
Speaker 6:So you know, that's just JA's been playing that game for yeah, I mean, it's not like he didn't like change course. No, no, no, that's how he's ridden, you know, right on that. And he seems to be pretty good always riding that razor edge right on the. And he seems to be pretty good always at riding that razor edge right on the line of being, but keeping it just clean enough. You know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, if you know, jason, he's not a villain, he's a cool guy, he's a friendly dude. But you know, he puts on his helmet, he wants to win and he wants to do whatever it takes.
Speaker 3:And you've got to appreciate that set of skills you know?
Speaker 4:Yeah, he definitely drives, Jeremy. We have a question from HaleyRay22. What was the favorite phase of your career to date? Oh, man.
Speaker 2:Oh gosh, man, I mean there was, it's fun. You know, my early days of getting a factory ride were absolutely so fun because you just never imagine that stuff's ever going to happen to you. And then, you know, years of winning on Honda was really good. And then, you know, it was a wild time when I left Honda I went to Suzuki. I still don't quite understand why Honda decided that they were going to make an all-brand-new bike when I won 14 out of 15 Supercrosses that year. They probably should have put that on hold. Then I could have stayed at Honda for a lot more years. But you know, as we know, the story is what it is.
Speaker 2:I left honda 96, um, had a really fun year on 97 on suzuki. I didn't really win a lot, I won a couple races but it was absolutely a blast. And then, uh, you know, in 96 everyone was kind of, you know, they were kind of tired of me winning. And so, 97, I became the underdog right. So when I won, people were just like you know, they were super pumped. And then, uh, I gained all those fans back again in 98 because I was the underdog, going to yamaha again. And uh, then I started winning again.
Speaker 2:So, uh, you know it's, it's, it was a roller coaster, but, um, I, I think you know, look, it's a very cool sport, it's something I'm so passionate about, and just to be able to be at the elite part of the sport for so many years is, uh, I mean, it's like I said, it's something I never, ever imagined. So I just tried to never take it for granted and it's, it's, uh, you know, one of those things I just, I still love it today just as much as I ever did. I wish I was a lot younger, I could still be racing, which would be amazing, but uh, um, you know, I just still love dirt bikes.
Speaker 4:So that's what it's about yeah, for sure, all right, bell, I'm gonna let you get back to your questions, uh, but we're gonna give away three hats, so I'm just gonna uh, 12, 12. So uh, jeremy, do you remember nearly lapping the field at Charlotte Motor Speedway in the early 90s?
Speaker 2:Oh man, I don't remember exactly lapping the field or like getting close. I probably got into the top ten a few times, but man, I'm just not, I don't remember exactly.
Speaker 2:Like I don't remember that, I mean it probably happened more than once, maybe several times. I I remember even watching carmichael when I was done retired, you know he would get up into the top 10 of the field and lap those guys too. So I mean there was some nights when, when I was pretty far ahead. So I I believe it, I just don't remember it.
Speaker 6:You know what I remember. Like this I've met. I just had it just popped in my head and it had been like 96, maybe in atlanta, and you got a bad start which you like never got. Yeah, and you were. You were just blitzing through the pack, I mean, and and uh, there was a finish line, lander, hard right, and mike craig was in it and he drilled him and took his, took his pipe right off yeah his bike. That was a wild. That's such a cool race okay.
Speaker 2:So fun fact, fun fact behind that, I think, chris, that was the heat race. Maybe it was in the final I won, but yes, in the heat race I slammed right into him because he was there and I was on the inside the yeah, and I was laughing about this with my friend the other day. You know that was the first time that night and and this is how you know that because that night was I was wearing the first helmet cam that we ever had in the sport, so they had. I had this mohawk thing on the top of my helmet with the camera pointing out right there. But then there was a wire going down and I wore a fanny pack because the battery was in. The battery was in the fanny pack and I I agreed to race with this.
Speaker 2:So it was, you know, like I had to wear like a couple pound fanny pack and uh, that's where that great footage came from is me running to mike craig that night. And uh, yeah, it was pretty wild. I don't know, I'm not even sure that I wore the thing for the final, because I was probably. I was like, take it off, superstitious, a little bit like, oh, yeah, he's got to come off. I eventually started wearing it a little bit more, and even in finals that thing was so heavy. I don't know what got into me and why I agreed to wear that, but anyway the footage was really cool.
Speaker 3:Yes, it was yes I wouldn't know if that was worth it or not, but anything for footage for sure that's funny, you caught yourself yeah, here's the thing.
Speaker 2:Uh, fanny packs are designed, I think, mostly to wear behind um, and the way, the way that it worked out with the batteries, they were kind of heavy and hanging off the back. So I will turn around and wore it forwards and it was a really thin fanny pack, um, so that's in style right now yeah jeremy, you're you're two decades, two decades early yeah don't they hang off the side now, though, yeah, man, I got them cross-bodied now yeah, yeah, I don't know about that for me. No, I'm good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, exactly, I'm good hey, so I just searched on. Do you remember this?
Speaker 2:look at that oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah. Bradshaw was really okay. You want a story behind that one I do, I do so, uh, that was when bradshaw made his comeback. Uh, oh, wait, no, oh, that was the first time. He's number eight right there, right, yeah, that's 93. So, um, yeah, he's never okay. So I you know, bradshaw was typically a pretty good starter and he was the. He was, he's a legend, he's like one of my favorites and I love bradshaw, but he, you know, yeah, he's, he was one year, am I?
Speaker 1:number one right there, or number 15?
Speaker 2:yeah, 15, so that's 93. So, uh, I remember what happened was is, uh, I hole shot at him and then I closed this, I closed off the start and just pinched him. I didn't wreck him or nothing, and I just came in and slowed him down and had my elbow out and slowed him down a little bit and, uh, I won the race, obviously. And then, after he was super mad at me for for doing that, I'm like okay, what do you want me to let you go? What do you want me to let you go? This is racing. So, uh, anyways, I think there might have been a couple of expletive words in there shocking yeah, yeah I might have told them it's time for you to retire.
Speaker 4:Whatever happened. Like I know, you're a big Troy Lee guy now but whatever happened to Cinesalo dude?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. So my friend, bob Rathkamp, who now is the Garnet boot distributor he was the first, you know. Basically he used to work for Axo years ago and then he went off and got the distributorship for for cinesolo, and that was like in 90 I mean jeff ward was wearing it before I was. But um, yeah, so like 93 and 94 I wore cinesolo, but I'm not really sure what happened. It seemed like it was going pretty well and we changed the gear, we got it pretty cool and then, um, I don't know, for whatever, whatever reason, he went off to do some other stuff and dude.
Speaker 4:It's like talking about old gear, chris, like obviously you know we race in the same kind of era do you remember yoko with the hrp or hpr chest protector like I was big hr guy yeah dude. Yeah, I was like. I was like I need a yoko sponsor. I didn't even know who made the gear or anything, I just wanted to be looking exactly like them.
Speaker 2:You want to look like C Lampton.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's what I was trying to do, bella. I'm going to let you get back to your questions, but the winners of the three hats we got them written down. It's Alan Hamilton 12-12,. Haley Ray, 22,. And Colton Hurst Woo.
Speaker 6:Yeah, Congrats guys. Excellent, Cool man.
Speaker 3:Kind of on that same sponsorship topic. But throughout your career you've built these partnerships with your sponsors. I know Max's is a big part of your team but kind of tell us like the content that you guys get to create together and like you know what events you guys get to go to and still staying in the industry but not really competing yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Maxis is like the perfect partner because I do all these different sports right. So I have my, my mountain bikes, I have my motocross bikes and then we obviously do fun stuff with my automobiles, obviously the side-by-side. So you know, look we at, maxxis and myself, we just try to do everything fun related and competition is a bonus. But I've also been competing for so many years and we kind of cherry-pick different races to go do. Obviously my daughter Rowan, she loves side-by-sides, just like you do, and we go out and race together and we've done Johnson Valley, which is King of the Hammers, several times and we put on a fun Maxis Jeremy McGrath ride each year there.
Speaker 2:We go to things like Trail Hero and St George for side-by-side stuff, and then that's not including all the motocross events that I do. So, yeah, I think our you know like again what the Motorcycle Avenue has provided for me to do, all these other fun, you know, fun sports and still stay involved. We just did a really fun bmx event called the dirty fest in senecula at veil lake, and um I I just absolutely had so much fun. I was riding bmx with a bunch of these guys that I used to look, look to, and they were all on the cover of the magazines when I was a little kid and uh. So those kinds of things, you know, I I just try to like I have so many friends in all kinds of industries, what's cool.
Speaker 6:What's cool about Jeremy and what he's saying is like the dude loves to ride. He loves like you can hear it in his voice and that's why he has friends everywhere he goes.
Speaker 3:He has a passion for it.
Speaker 6:Yeah, Like that really comes through, Like, above all else, you love to ride, Like you love to compete, Like the other thing that's neat about the Maxxis partnership is like before we started getting into all this side-by-side stuff and everything else, you won a championship in Pro 2 on MaxSense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was just thinking about that. I forgot about that.
Speaker 6:That's, you know, like that's how wide what you've done is, which is super cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got a whole different spectrum of a bunch of diverse things, so that kind of goes that?
Speaker 2:that kind of goes back to your. One of your first questions is you know, when I was done and retired from racing, um, I spent eight years racing short course and that was such a great avenue to to be able to keep racing. Yeah, you know, like on a serious level, um, and I spent nine seasons. I think it was nine seasons, um. But I mean, the short course world is such, is so fun.
Speaker 2:It's just like supercross in a truck and uh, yeah, we, like with maxis, we had so much success, we won the, we won the pro two championship, won a lot of races and, uh, man, just achieve the highest goals that that we set for ourselves in that sport. Um, so, yeah, I, I just gosh, it was so fun. But now, you know, with Kyle Stockey's intro into the side-by-side world and with me being a brand ambassador, um, I mean, I don't know if anyone's out there ever ran roxillas on their side-by-sides, but if you haven't, you definitely need to do that, because they are the stickiest, most badass tires you could ever put on a side-by-side for for for for johnson valley at least, and um, for a lot of different things we run.
Speaker 2:We run 35 inch roxillas on on everything we do, whether we're going to baja, whether we're going out in the hills here or whether we're going to johnson valley, wherever it is the rocks in st george, the slick rock and all that stuff it's. I mean, it's just it changes side by side and really and uh, so anyways, we do a lot of that, we do a lot of, I do a lot of mountain, I do a lot of mountain biking. Obviously still A lot of dirt biking, still. I just like to try to do all things fun. My fascination with two wheels started when I was Chris's son's age on my big wheel. So that's how it works.
Speaker 6:That's how it yeah.
Speaker 4:Real quick, bill, and then I'll let you get on again. So Brantley K actually said a couple things. He asked one of the questions and I didn't give him enough credit, chris, so we got four now. But he also said and I'm going to say something after this comment, but he said, what a dream life you lived, jeremy. You sure made it a wonderful life for you, your wife and your girls. There's a lot to that statement, right, because a lot of that means your hard work and dedication not only to your work, to your life and to your family. But it's been a long road, right. There's been tons of trials and tribulations that have come through that life, but you still every day get up and put your family first.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I think, as far as, of course, family first, that's really all I think about, and I've been blessed enough to have a really great schedule to to hang out with my kids a lot and my wife a lot I don't have to travel so much anymore, um. But I think you know the main. The main lesson in all this is if you have passion for something and you love it enough, you can make something out of it, whether it's a job, whether it's a career, whether it's a race, a racing position.
Speaker 2:I just think that if I didn't start racing dirt bikes because I wanted to make money or I wanted to have this long career, I did it because I was so in love with it that I just felt like I could be good at it, and I think that works in a lot of that, works in a lot of works in a lot of life. You know like if you love what you're doing, you'll never feel like it's a day at work, right?
Speaker 3:so, um, it doesn't feel like a chore to get up and put effort into it. It's more right I want to.
Speaker 2:I want to succeed and I know a lot, I know a lot of people maybe don't have that option and I'm one of the lucky ones for sure. But at the same time, if you can put that kind of passion into your side projects, into your, into your you know your weekend projects, you know there's, there's other, there's also more opportunity out there, if you can just put your whole heart into it and I feel like, um, you know, for for me it's just really, I feel like right now in my life, even at at this age and having a family and all that stuff, I feel like it's just like I was out there in the back of my parents house riding my dirt bike.
Speaker 2:You know the things I do I really love to do them and, uh, if I wasn't, if I didn't love it, I wouldn't be doing them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you didn't love it, you wouldn't't be doing them. Yeah, if you didn't love it, you wouldn't make it family-oriented too, which is cool, because then you get to bring your kids into it and share something with them that you get to experience way before they're even alive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think it's not an easy sell, right, it's not an easy sell for me. People know how I feel, they know that. They can see it. They can see it by my actions. They know what I do, they know how much I love off-roading, I love dirt bikes, I love bikes, I love this style of life and you know it's not an easy, it's not a hard sell Like it's my life, that's what I do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6:It's really cool, it's admirable to pick that young and go. I'm doing that somehow. You pick that goal and then you just shoot for it until you succeed in some capacity. That's the clarity, right. Yeah, yeah, this is what I'm meant for.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, yeah, that's and's. And you know, when you're, when you're young, you're not, you're not totally sure that maybe that's the right decision. Right, I mean, when I was in high school and bagging groceries at bonds, I wasn't thinking man supercross titles on the horizon here.
Speaker 6:I wasn't, I wasn't thinking that for sure.
Speaker 2:But I kept plugging away and I thank God my parents were, you know, so stoked for me and just really helped me and helped me get along in that moto world and they kind of provided enough opportunity for that.
Speaker 2:If I could get to Supercross, get to the stadium floor and be able to race those tracks, that I'd be good at it. And that's a combination of just kind of feeling like Chris, like you said, and all the BMX skills that I learned as a little kid. I think the Supercross as a sport was kind of ready for a change. I think the Supercross as a sport was kind of ready for a change and my style, the style, the techniques that I had and was bringing into the sport, was sort of changing the way things were done in that sport. And you know that part sometimes you got to be a little lucky right, the timing's got to be good. The era before me really wasn't into like staying low. They were into jumping as high as you possibly can and all these things that can shave time off your lap time and all these things that I learned in bmx really helped me for that.
Speaker 4:So, um, you know, bella, I was looking at, uh, some videos of jeremy the other day and jeremy, you know this. I mean, like everybody talks about the bubba scrub all the time and we're not discounting that at all but like I remember seeing like a lot of the guys that were precursors to your generation were like they would preload the shit out of the bike to make it go over the jump, like it was all you could do because it was low horsepower. But then you started pushing through the jump and pushing down and like letting the front end, you know, come to the ground first, and it was like what the heck is like. It was like the same thing as when, uh, nobody had seen it right yeah it.
Speaker 2:It looks so strange then, right, it looks so impressive because, um, I was able to, like I figured out the method of like hitting the jumps faster and and pushing through the lips instead of like, like you said, like pushing into the bike and skying it super high. You know, it was really just a BMX thing and I figured out how to adapt that to motos. And it took guys a few years to capitalize and like figure out how to learn that. So I was kind of like free reign. I had my own style for like a couple seasons before guys sort of caught onto it.
Speaker 2:And that part part, I think, is just lucky, right, because the sport was kind of ready for that and I was the one doing it. And, um, you know, even guys that I raced against weren't it took them a while to figure that out. So nowadays, you know, you see, you see the evolution of the scrub from what I was doing to what james did, to what all these other guys are doing. You know, if, if you don't ride like that now, you're not even, you can't even keep up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Well, and it's always evolving right. Like I don't know who said it, like Wygan or somebody said, generational talents. But like you can see, it's like the next step, right, because you had like people like you that were very technical and very like focused, like like you that were very technical and very like focused like you, you knew what half an inch meant on the track, right, yeah, but now you now you see, like the bubba scrub and everything was kind of loose.
Speaker 2:Well, now jet's tidying it up again and you can see he's back to going that fast and hitting that accuracy yeah, that's true, you know he's, he's uh, hitting his marks at a way faster pace with you know, and and and it's, his skill set is really high, uh, and those bikes are super powerful, so it's pretty impressive to watch. I mean, he's, he's young, he's going to be winning for a long time and, uh, it's, it's been pretty fun to watch. But you know, I think it again, whatever it was lucky timing or changing a style, whatever it was, just the sport was ready for a change and and I was the one to do it. So I feel, feel lucky, feel lucky to kind of grow up at that time yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:A lot of the comments that are coming in are basically saying that same thing. We all feel lucky that you grew up in that time we all had somebody except for yeah you guys, I was, yeah, they didn't feel lucky kind of.
Speaker 3:On the topic of evolution and just like the growth of this sport, how people I know you mentioned this to me not so long ago, it was either you or somebody else but how riders used to take care of bodies compared to like. Then, you know, like before races, like if they were prepping for it or if they were just going and partying, or if they. You know what has changed since you last competed?
Speaker 2:You know, I think it's funny, we, we talked about that on the way to the lake and we talked about, we talked about how, if you look, if you think about all the comments from people back in the day, like, oh, mc used to go out and he used to have so much fun, go out to parties and all this stuff and I did, wasn't afraid to go out, but at the same time, uh, I wanted my competition to think that I was out there doing that a lot more than I actually was and that was kind of part of my strategy, like if, if they thought I wasn't working, then that means they weren't going to be working so then I could secretly work and no one knew about it.
Speaker 2:And then they thought I was out there all the time, never training, never doing any of that.
Speaker 3:So um I laugh.
Speaker 2:I laugh hard when people say like, oh man, the sport used to be so cool. These guys never trained, they never did. All they did is go out right here and all this stuff, and that's so far from the truth, but it's what it seemed. So, um, yeah, I wasn't afraid to go out when it was right, the right time and have a good time trust me on that. But uh, there was plenty of work being done behind the scenes and, uh, that was proof of what was happening on the weekends yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 6:That's a gnarly. I can. I can remember that as a youngster too, like all of the you know, like motocross media and this big yeah, how's he doing this? And you know, I can remember that kind of, because even that kind of made your legend grow even further. Right, you know amongst the fan base. Yeah, totally, I think you know amongst the fan base. Yeah, totally, I think.
Speaker 2:So I think you know helpful yeah, I think one of the things that I um really pride myself on is just being relatable. You know what I mean. Like, yeah, I can ride a dirt bike, but, and yeah, it's been great at times for you know, something people maybe could not achieve, but at the end of the day, I was, I'm just a dirt bike rider, you know what I mean. Um well, I remember a funny story in 93, uh, when I started winning in a honda, jeff stanton was on the team. That was the year he retired, but he was number one in 93 and I was number 15 and I was a rookie um, but, like, at the practice tracks and stuff, we would be sitting there, um, when, when we were practicing and I would be eating like candy bars and stuff in front of him, but on purpose, like because he was a training fanatic, he would go crazy like training all the time. Yeah, I just wanted him to think that I was doing nothing, it was great.
Speaker 6:Oh, that's it, we're going to get out of here with this banana pants kit. We just wanted to hop on when we saw everything going on.
Speaker 4:All right, Chris, thank you. Thank you very much for the support and giving the hats to all the fans and stuff. That's awesome.
Speaker 6:Yeah, let's get with Jeremy and then I'll work with Jeremy to replenish and if we need to send shipping labels and whatever, we'll get a dial.
Speaker 2:Thank you. I can ship them out from here, no worries, we'll get a dial, chris thanks for popping on good to see y'all thank you so much for coming on. Be careful don't get nerfed over there. That's right, a little late, see ya. Don't get nerfed over there.
Speaker 6:That's right, it's a little late. All right, we'll holler, see you.
Speaker 4:See you All. Right, bell, what's some serious stuff that you got.
Speaker 3:Some serious stuff. Okay, well, I know we've all been wanting to know, but personally I've been wanting to know the kind of competitive drive that is behind the king. You know, like, even before events and before races, what was your mindset?
Speaker 2:like, like, how would you prepare yourself? Did you work well under pressure? You know, I feel like I was always pretty well under pressure, but there's a few races where I didn't perform as good as I thought I could have when I needed to, but I think overall I was pretty good. I don't think it really bothered me. I mean I had a pretty good like. I felt like every time I went out I could win. So if I didn't win I wasn't angry by it or anything like that. I was always like, okay, well, maybe tonight wasn't my night and you know I'll get them next week, but for the most part I came in pretty prepared.
Speaker 2:Where I had to learn that, you know where I had to learn all this stuff again was in off-road right, because when I started racing short course, yeah, I was pretty good, but I wasn't winning right away. Control course, yeah, I was pretty good, but I wasn't winning right away, and I won kind of sporadically. For you know, I'd win some races during the year, but never even close to the championship until I got my own team and then I sort of really put my head down and tried to figure it out and and got the right. As you know you, if you get the right crew behind you, the right parts, the right car, you know the right horsepower, the right, the right parts, the right car. You know the right horsepower, the right. It's a lot of it's a giant puzzle to figure out, right, it's a giant puzzle, but once I put my head down to do that, I started winning a lot more and then I won the championship. So, you know, I think I think I have the right mindset and the right, the right strategies and the way to learn how to win, win whatever I'm doing.
Speaker 2:I think you know, like, if I can, um, you know, when I was younger at least, and, uh, so I don't know, I, I think I, I'm, I have a really good, uh sort of way outlook, I guess, on how to get things done like this. I like the mechanical side of it too. So I know a lot of racers today. They have, um, you know, I, I would say they just have a little more of a struggle trying to maybe set their bikes up or set their cars up or something.
Speaker 2:But you know, it's really all about communication and trying to dig in and learn about what you're, what you're driving, what you're riding, and and learn the mechanics of it, because sometimes you need to understand how it works on paper before you can go actually put it together on the track yeah, bella, I think a lot of the questions that you're asking too, jeremy's saying the same thing, you know, to a lot of this effect, like, especially for all the young people that are watching your bella's corner, is that hard work, that that's number one, that's the staple, right?
Speaker 4:you got to be able to work hard in anything that you do. And the second is you got to have at least a mild form of confidence and then, as your confidence builds, use that confidence as a driving mechanism to be able to go faster and do better right. And then the last one that's very important as well, is a support mechanism. Jeremy's had a lot of support, but the reason that he got those support mechanisms was because of who he is, because he's humble, you know, he's very relatable and all of those different things can help any young person that's watching in any of the racing or any of the things that they want to do in life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:I think you've got to have discipline too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:Which I'm not sure I had when I was a kid. I'm not sure I did, but I mean, as a kid you learn how to have that.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you want something bad enough, you need to understand that it takes discipline and uh, you know, I mean I, I, I always say this I was pretty lazy as a kid, but I learned how to grow up fast. I learned that I needed to work and whatever it. You know I, I wanted that ultimate goal, so I did whatever it took and I think, I think, uh, there's no easy way. There's just no easy way. If you want it bad enough, you got to work hard and that's how it is yeah, jeremy, you'll make somebody's day.
Speaker 4:Can you please say hi, kelvin from Brazil what's up, kelvin, how you doing?
Speaker 2:I like Brazil. I went over to Brazil and shot two weeks. I was over there for two weeks shooting Steel Roots, one of my Steel Roots movies. I have a lot of friends over in Brazil. It's awesome.
Speaker 4:What you got next, Bella.
Speaker 3:Well next, this is a question I've been wanting to ask for a while, but when will we see you competing in the PGA Tour for golf Whoa?
Speaker 2:Oh man, well, I guess at this point it might be the senior tour, right? Uh, I really love golf, so that's what bella's talking about. I wish I would have started when I was like five years old, because then maybe the potential of something like that happening could happen. But um, I don't know. I've never really competed in golf, which is pretty funny, but I've been working on my game lately, been working on it quite a lot. I just went over to the Kingdom at TaylorMade and got a new club fit and so I don't know, I'm just super into it Summer's coming, excited about golf. I really like watching this weekend's a major, so I'm don't know, I'm just super into it Summer's coming, excited about golf. I really like watching this weekend's a major, so I'm excited about that. I don't know, you won't see me on PGA, but we'll be on the golf course.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:Okay, hey, did you know that? Bella's brother and Chase Carr, who are all on the show tonight? They are avid golf fans.
Speaker 2:All right. Well then, that sounds like we need to all get together and play some golf. Jason Cruz would absolutely love that and Rowan Rowan loves golf.
Speaker 3:I know Rowan's got to teach me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's a great game. You can have a lot of business meetings on the golf course.
Speaker 3:Rowan's pretty skilled at everything she does, though I think she's just coordinated and anything she really does, think she's just coordinated and like anything she really does, I'm like okay, well, she's got it she must have got her dad's jeans, see uh, kind of bringing in rowan and bergen. But what has been your favorite thing?
Speaker 2:watching them succeed in proudest dad moment so far uh, you know, I don't know, I think my kids are pretty good. I, obviously I'm biased, but, um, they don't cause too much trouble. Um, you know it's, it's been interesting for me. You know, I've always wanted to be a dad and then just trying to, trying to teach those life lessons and stuff like that it's. You know, I think one thing we always pound, try to pound in their head is like you, you have to be, you know. You, you have to work for it, you have to be disciplined, you. Nothing's gonna come easy, although it's been pretty easy for them up to this point. But Rowan's going to college soon, so she's gonna have to really grow up on this one. Um, so, uh, but, yeah, we enjoy racing together. Um, I love watching them play sports and do what they do. Yeah, um, but I also we love our off-roading time. So it's been fun. I mean, being a dad is better than I ever imagined and it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's cool. Well, I'd say I pretty much asked you everything I I really really was excited to, so, Well, I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you guys letting me come on. It's always fun to catch up. Yeah.
Speaker 3:No, definitely.
Speaker 2:I know one thing we are doing right now is we're working on some KRX. I got my friend Jim Anderson involved and we're trying to really come up with a good Kawasaki shock setting Well, shock forksasaki shock setting Uh well, shock forks. No shock, yeah, shocks yeah. Um, forks are dirt bikes, but anyway, uh, we we've. Uh, when Rowan, when Rowan and I raced Johnson Valley for King of the Hammers in the desert race, um, I was I mean, I rode co-driver right so the ruts were deep, the the car was a little soft, it was at its, you know, heaviest point, right, because it's full of fuel and all the spare stuff on it, and so I realized that we need to really work, work, work, uh, some things out with the suspension. So, um, I'm working on doing that right now and then we're hoping to hit some races, maybe this summer, yeah.
Speaker 3:For sure. You guys should definitely try to head out to Vegas Torino. I think that'd be super cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, chris, from Maxis, we've been talking about it a lot and you know, logistically for us we don't really have a team or anything. It's just me and my friends that work on the cars, and I think between maxis, though, and and kawasaki, we might be able to, and you guys, maybe we could come up, we could come up with like a pit crew strategy to um, get to the race. You know, I mean, have you done that race?
Speaker 2:yes, I have it's a long race. Right, it's a long race. It's a long race when you chase the race on the street.
Speaker 3:It's got to be a long off road race at least a 12 hour day on a good day. It's a lot of effort, but for sure I think me and Rowan got to do something here soon yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2:I think you guys do. And then, hey, at the end of the day, you end up in Reno. You're a long ways away from home.
Speaker 3:500 miles later, jeremy, if you guys are interested.
Speaker 2:And then hey, at the end of the day you end up in Reno.
Speaker 3:You're a long ways away from home. Yeah Jeez 500 miles later.
Speaker 2:Jeremy, if you guys are interested in doing that with a fan, we'd love to help out too. Yeah, no, I need first and foremost, like I said, I'm working on the suspension and working on the car, so we're trying to get something that's even that we can even think about racing for that. You know what I mean. So, as you know, if we go to a race, we want to compete at the front, so we got to get the car set up for that and we've done some races, some DP4 races and some other races and stuff. We did California 300, we did the UTV World Championships, we did some fun races, but Vegas Arena was a whole other animal, so we just need to be ready for it.
Speaker 4:Hey, jeremy, don't look over your left shoulder. I know, I know, Hi, rowan, hi.
Speaker 3:It's definitely a challenge, but I would love to see you guys out there, and even being a team out there would be super cool.
Speaker 2:I know I'm super down. All right. Well, it sounds like we need to have a meeting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4:Yeah, thanks, jeremy, I appreciate it. Hey, I still want to get with you on a couple other things. Like Pro Eagle would like to help you out with some stuff. Oh, yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we um. I enjoyed being on with you guys. Thanks for your time, thank you, and uh, I look forward to more fun stuff that we can talk about sounds great.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much, jeremy, I really appreciate all right, bye guys, see you bye rowan that was pretty awesome yeah you did a great job I'd say that was pretty cool, pretty good turnout so, uh, one thing before we start getting uh the other guys on.
Speaker 4:We're gonna get thor herbst and jeremy munyon on, but how was it interviewing your uh, well, we'll just for lack of a better word your first big guest. What did you think? Did it go easier or was it pretty stressful?
Speaker 3:um, I'd say at first it was pretty stressful, kind of breaking the ice, deciding what really to start off with and set the tone, but as the conversation went on, it went pretty good. I mean, I got to learn a lot of things that I had no idea about, you know, things that you can't just look up, things. You've got to really ask the king. So it's pretty good.
Speaker 4:Those are the exact things that we want, right. All right, melody, let's get the intro going for Thor Herbst and Jeremy.
Speaker 3:What's up, guys, how you doing.
Speaker 1:How's it going, hey?
Speaker 8:Hey, how's it going.
Speaker 3:Pretty good. So, thor Herbst, I actually have a really good introduction. Our next guest is Thor Herbst, from Las Vegas, nevada, driver of the number 219 Trophy Truck Spec Class. Terrible Herbst Motorsports team team member and winner of the 2023 and 2024 score san felipe 250. So I'd say you're on a pretty good run lately. You just finished the san felipe 250 and took it home, so give us a quick race recap on how that went we did well we.
Speaker 1:To win in that class, you have to have a perfect day, which everybody in the class knows. You can't have any problems, and the person who doesn't is going to, most of the time, end up the winner. We had a really good day. Jeremy and I kept it clean and ended up winning the race, but that doesn't always happen. We've had races where we've broke and we're problems just come up out of nowhere.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, we had a good one yeah, for sure, it sounds like you went pretty smooth yeah yeah, there was the thors.
Speaker 4:Be a pretty chill about that, jeremy. Like you guys had a few, uh, close calls and like it was a like a pretty decent race man, but you guys were on it yeah, I mean, as far as a clean day is, is no stops and you're you're keeping forward momentum the whole time.
Speaker 8:Obviously there's going to be little hiccups here and there it's desert racing. So, um, you know, we just tried to have a decent pace and really not have any issues and really in that class a flat tire will take you out of the wind. So that was proven to be fact with Jason McNeil, who's, you know, kind of dominated that class within the last couple of years. And you know, we know we've had pace to run up front and sometimes it just takes a little bit of luck that that goes your way to really have a clean, a clean day. Clean day, exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure. I don't know if there's such thing as a fully clean day in history, but you know we can try to get as close as we can to it.
Speaker 4:Have you noticed a lot of progression in like your speed and your consistency in the last few years, thor?
Speaker 1:For sure, and I think Jeremy can probably say more about this than I can. But no, when we first started years ago I wouldn't call myself as comfortable as I am now in the driver's seat and I think in the past year, year and a half, is when we really started to compete and really be able to hang out with the guys who were normally at the top, and I think we've started to really break into that group and compete in every race that we compete, that we race in yeah, for sure, has that changed with your pits, like being able to, like realize, oh dang, I got to expand this pit crew because now I'm bettering myself as a driver.
Speaker 3:So, around like, how many hands do you use a weekend?
Speaker 1:You know, we've always had a pretty large, large pit crew. We don't just pit for ourselves, sometimes we pit for other cars that one nine industries has has built, and trophy trucks, uh, spec trucks, uh yeah, we've kind of expanded past just the 219 car and I guess it started with the 19 car, but I've gone into a lot of other people's pits, so we really have a big group of people. I don't know, jeremy, do you know how many people we have on a normal race weekend down there across probably one or two pits, probably like 50 yes, so it changes a little bit per what race it is and how many pits that we are running um, but on average we go down there with somewhere between, you know, for the big races 60 to 70 people somewhere between you know
Speaker 4:for the big races, 60 to 70 people Dang. That's crazy. You'd be surprised, bella, how quickly those people are used to work, though, like there's a lot of stuff that happens with all of the action that's going on, because, you've got to remember, there's usually anywhere from three to six trucks and each truck takes a certain amount of people, and those trucks get to those locations at different times. So the way that they strategize it and the way that they do it, it's uh, I don't want to say skeleton crew on each truck, because there's plenty of people, but uh, it's very formatted per the uh, I don't know what you want to call it the longevity of the race and the format of when people arrive to the pits right, it's not like it's overcrowded.
Speaker 3:Everyone's there for a purpose and has a specific job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sometimes it is yeah.
Speaker 4:It's always overcrowded at lunchtime.
Speaker 1:Exactly, yeah, no, when they're serving food, people always find their way to the grill.
Speaker 3:Oh, we got to know what pit crew snacks do you guys have?
Speaker 1:Jeremy Ooh.
Speaker 8:In the pits, Uncrustables are always a go-to.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 8:They're just fast, easy Water and our favorite little mouth pillow snack.
Speaker 1:No, I'm on the same one. When I'm in the car it's Uncrustable pool, it's probably the easiest, most like I would say, energy field thing. You can probably eat in a short amount of time. Um, but I mean when I'm just hanging out I'll just make a sandwich or eat a taco or something whatever's available everyone it's.
Speaker 3:maybe it's just a racing thing, I don't know. Maybe we got to start getting sponsored by them or something.
Speaker 8:They'd make a hit in desert racing for sure.
Speaker 3:They definitely would.
Speaker 4:There's some non-endemics that could easily come into the Herbs crew.
Speaker 8:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 4:For sure I can already see one. Remember what was it the last show that we talked with? Oh, why am I forgetting his name? But we got mustaches all over the place in the last couple shows.
Speaker 3:Brock Brock.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:Brock yeah.
Speaker 1:Jeremy's definitely got a better mustache. I don't have anything on now, but sometimes I have a little guy.
Speaker 8:Oh, when you got here, it's good though.
Speaker 3:I didn't ask a question because every other question was about his mustache.
Speaker 4:His mustache got a lot of love on that show it really did.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure that's all we talked about. As racers, we tend to put a lot of pressure on ourselves to perform well. I personally know this, but I'm sure you do too. I want to talk about your 2023 season. You went into the Baja 1000, I think around 17 to 20 points down from first place. What was that kind of how did you go into that? What kind of mindset did you have? You know, being that it was such a big race and you were so close to leading?
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, it was such a big race and you were so close to leading. You know, yeah, it was a I forget, I don't know, yeah, I forget that might be exactly how many points, but we were right on jason mcneil, uh, going into that race, and you know it's such a long race to where you can't really think about that in the very beginning. Uh, you kind of just have to put that aside. And because over a ball 1000, whether it's 900 miles or 1300 miles, something's bound to go wrong. And in my case something went wrong at mile 20, which I got a flat, lost my brakes and, um, a bunch of people got by me.
Speaker 1:But, um, we were, we were able to work our way back up and, uh, I actually on our way back up, I saw Jason McNeil broke and that made me feel a little better because all we needed to do was beat him and so at that point we were kind of just cruising at a good pace and then the disaster struck at the very end. But, um, yeah, no, it was. Uh, you can't really, you can't really think about that stuff in the long run. I know you're you do, but you kind of have to put it to the side and whatever happens happens and you just got to trust that how you drive and how everybody else prepared is going to get you to where you need to be.
Speaker 4:Jeremy. There's a lot behind that statement, though, that Thor's talking about, because there's so many details that happen every second or every 10 seconds of a 1,300-mile race, right, like, how do you guys manage that? Because the I don't know what you want to call it, but the brainpower that both of you guys are using while driving that truck for so long and I don't know just how do you keep focused Because there's so much happening.
Speaker 8:Well, kind of like what Thor was saying. You know, like results, you don't want to necessarily wait for things to come to you, especially in a race like that where it's so long people can get away from you. And you know, ultimately, like we talked about when we had kind of just a flawless day at San Felipe, like even at a ball in 1000, like it almost takes something like that to have success, um, especially in such a competitive class, um, luckily, breaking the race up between multiple drivers and co-drivers definitely helps. But uh, you know, if you just kind of sit back and wait for things to happen, you kind of get caught in dust and then you smack a rock and you know, rip a corner off or something like that. So you really have to be kind of in your race pace and in in your your kind of charge mode, um, and kind of just almost hope for the best.
Speaker 8:You know, obviously there obviously there's a lot of strategy that goes into it logistically, car setup. You know pre-running things like that. You know Thor and I, you know riding with Thor and his brother Pierce. You know we talk about things while we're pre-running, like if we're in dust we're not going to take this line, or if we're out of dust then we will take this line. You know, luckily, with the support that we do have. Um, you know, sometimes it's nice to to wait to fuel, for you know right behind somebody and we know that they're going to stop soon. You know just track position alone, like you. There's so much that goes on within that. Nine to 1300 miles. That, uh, you know it's constant strategy and there's things that are constantly changing. Um, you know, the motto within our team is things are subject to change all the time. So, um, you know, you kind of just have to be ready for whatever's going to happen, um, and then just manage it as best as you can.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure, it kind kind of does suck, but you always have to be like, okay, going into a race expecting anything, expecting that anything can happen yeah, absolutely good or bad, so but yeah, yeah it is. It can be difficult and definitely like kind of mentally straining a little bit, especially if you're going 1,000 miles. Yeah, just to get to the end and then something like that happen, but it is racing.
Speaker 4:What's the longest race you've ever done, though?
Speaker 3:Me yeah, vegas-torino.
Speaker 8:It's long enough.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is long enough, 500 miles too long.
Speaker 8:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:That is a long one.
Speaker 3:Sure, Did you got anything George?
Speaker 4:Yeah, absolutely so. There's a few things that I get to see behind the scenes, right, and one of the things that I want to talk about, bell, is because you asked Jeremy these kinds of questions. Thor and Jeremy can both answer this, but they can answer it only with like half knowledge, right? Because they don't see all of the marketing and stuff that happens behind the scenes when they're out there, on course, but you see everything afterwards. And what would you suggest to Bella and to all of her young viewers?
Speaker 8:That's a good way to put yourself out there so that you can market and get sponsors and different things like that um, I mean, the biggest thing is just being who you are, right like, don't, don't change or try to be someone that, uh, that's not you.
Speaker 8:You know sponsors are gonna come and go and ultimately you want them to to like you and to support you for who you are. Um, you know so, whatever that, whatever that may be, um, try to just stay true to what your program is and and what you want to see your success as. Um, you know, if you're you're happy with your program and you're happy with the things that you're doing, success will come. Um, you know so, sometimes you just got to fight it out. Things get frustrating from time to time, but, uh, yeah, just making those connections with who you are, as as as your own person, uh, really goes a long way with people. Um, especially when you start moving up the ladder a little bit, um, they really take that as as like it being a sincere person, and you'll get a lot more support that way.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because people can see right through it, absolutely.
Speaker 3:How has your guys' journey been with all of that? Kind of just you know, with sponsors and excelling in the sport.
Speaker 4:Well, I can help clarify this a little bit. Thor, you guys have been very, very good over the last year and a half on putting yourselves out there. You guys now offer live feeds.
Speaker 4:Thank you for letting us be a part of it, by the way, but this is basically a connection that you get to see all of the natural things that happen during a race. You get to see everything that happens in the truck. You get to see everything that happens when you get out of the natural things that happen during a race, right, you get to see everything that happens in the truck. You get to see everything that happens when you get out of the truck. You get to see everything in the pits. All of these things open up a lot of vulnerability to your guys' team to everything that's going on. You can even pass secrets to other teams, right, like all of this stuff happens, but you guys have been on the forefront of it and it's very exciting to watch. It's very exciting, and when people get to see that stuff and you guys are being real, it's very, very valuable. Is it hard for you guys?
Speaker 1:um, you know, is it hard? Are you asking if it's hard to be in the forefront of the camera and have all the live stream and all that? Is that what you're referring to?
Speaker 4:yeah, because you're basically just putting the realism of everything out there for everybody.
Speaker 1:You know I, I mean I can I don't know if I can speak for jeremy on this, but I mean we don't really change much from when the cameras are on, and for when they're off, um, everybody's pretty, I would say, like natural and and uh and comfortable when everything's on, cause I mean, at the end of the day, it's everybody who, we, we all hang out 24, seven when we're down there and and I mean you really can't change that when you're, when you're going during a race or you're, the pits are on or or something else is going like that, but I mean it is, but it is, it is cool being at the forefront of the live stream and everybody seeing what we're able to do and what we do down there, and I think it's a really exciting part of the future of our sport.
Speaker 3:Being able to show everyone else the perspective that they can't see, that you do, yeah.
Speaker 8:We're not going to change how we race really, just because there's a camera. That's there. You know, um, desert racing is an aggressive sport, just like really any other type of racing. Um, you know, there's bumping, there's nerf thing there's. You know things that happen. So, um, you know, through the good and the bad, you just try to stay true to who you are and cameras will. Cameras will show the good and the bad yes, they will yeah and bella jeremy said basically the same thing too.
Speaker 4:Like all this stuff that happens with social media and all of the young viewers that you have in your audience, like it's just about being you as much as you possibly can and people will gravitate to that for sure, and you earn lots and lots of respect from being real and yourself and honest.
Speaker 8:So yeah, definitely yeah stay staying tight with those people that were there with you through the uh, through the beginning too, goes a long way, you know.
Speaker 1:Um, bringing those people up with you through your successes uh, you know, earns a lot of respect through that too yeah, for sure, very good point have you uh, so had the same pit crew, or has it like fluctuated a lot, or you know, people have come and go, um, but I mean, there's like even when I was a kid, coming down to the races watching my dad, there's been a lot of the same people there that were there way back then. Um, but like with life and anything, people come and go and the everybody we've had and everybody that is currently there is amazing, and the volunteers that we get are incredible, and everybody who works at um one nine and taylor herbst motorsports is an absolute greatest people in the world and, yeah, we couldn't be more grateful to have them all yeah, that's super cool that you guys have a really great support system hey, so I got a question that I want to ask both of them.
Speaker 4:Jeremy, you go first. What if you could race anything like monster truck, speed boat, indycar f, whatever? What would you pick like? If you you can get any car tomorrow, what are you doing?
Speaker 8:oh man, um shoot. I don't have much like a road racing background. All my stuff comes from the dirt. But uh, I would love to get like an indie car, an f1 car or something like that. Just, you know, I'm a, I'm a fan of of that side. Um don't know how much success I would have, but it would be. It would be a ball to go try that out.
Speaker 4:What about you, Thor?
Speaker 1:You know, I think that'd be pretty fun as well, getting in a rocket ship of an F1 car. But I think it'd be pretty funny to hop in a NASCAR and give my cousin a little bump.
Speaker 8:Yeah.
Speaker 4:That would be pretty cool. I always think it's funny. Because funny? Because I've always been a big. After seeing Top of Duke just sending those monster trucks, I've always been like does that hurt your back? I want to try it and see if you can. Doesn't that feel like it would be too much air to just launch those things?
Speaker 8:Yeah, those things are so wild Suspension seats and everything that they have in there too. I don't even know how you can see out of them.
Speaker 4:Thor, have you seen them when they do like the backflips?
Speaker 8:and all that. Yeah, so gnarly.
Speaker 3:A whole different type of ball game? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, being that this sport is so family-orientated for you, especially because you know you have this whole big family tree of everyone who shared the same passion for the sport, have you been able to take um, you know, advantages from that, like advice from you know, your grandpa, your dad, your brothers, like, give us a little rundown on that yeah, no, I mean I I've been really fortunate um being growing up, growing up in in my family and being next to amazing drivers and riding in the car with amazing drivers and learning a lot from whoever it may be.
Speaker 1:Like my dad, my uncles, jeremy, I ask advice from everybody. I like to mold my driving style off of learning from tons of different people. I don't really take one thing or the next and hold it. I like to bring it all into one and really make it all my own. But no, I've learned a lot from everybody that has been around us as a team and it's, I mean, it's worked out, it's been good.
Speaker 4:Do you remember the first car you ever rode in or you got to drive?
Speaker 1:We started in go-karts when I was like I think six and then we went into trophy karts and then the core races, which were pretty fun, and then kind of just took a little break. I was playing football for a while and then kind of got into just doing the side-by-side riding and getting into the trophy spec class and all that.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 8:Well, that's a long time, though.
Speaker 4:Do you remember what first car you drove, Jeremy?
Speaker 8:Shoot. This was probably one of my dad or my grandfather's old 1600 cars. This was probably like an 80s 1600 car that we had sitting around when we were out in the desert or down in Mexico or something. We would kind of learn to drive and kind of. The first car was a manual clutch car that I started driving. So whenever I get to drive one of the spec trucks now, it's almost a little odd not having that third pedal.
Speaker 4:Bella, have you ever driven a manual vehicle where you have the clutch pedal? I have not Dude, we got to get you to drive one one day it was a real race car.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I got to give it a shot.
Speaker 4:We were actually talking about this. You guys know, mila, we were talking about it with him the other day. He gave me a ride in his 510, and I was like, dude, it's crazy to think that most people can't, like they have to shift the clutch, like when most like us learning, like we learned how to like time the throttle, some transmission, everything, everything could just shift in the gears. It's so crazy. I would love to teach you, bella, or your dad could totally help you out.
Speaker 3:I got to ask him. I'm sure he knows he's pretty old, so I hope he's watching. Yeah, he definitely is. I know Ryan just commented something.
Speaker 1:He said, thor, how are the odds for the 500? How are the odds for the 500? How are the odds for the 500? You know? Um, like I said before, we gotta have a good day. Come prepared. There's a lot of good drivers, with jason mcneil, justin davis sitting right behind or, I guess, got, I guess it's not sitting right behind us anymore. We qualify before this race now, but, um, uh, no, there's a lot of, a lot of really talented drivers in our class and we, we just have to come prepared. So the odds, I, I hope they're, I think they're hot yeah, I hope they're high for you guys too desert racing.
Speaker 4:The odds always get adjusted during the race. They can go high, low and then they can come right back.
Speaker 3:I don't think they're consistent.
Speaker 1:Live betting and off-road racing is not a smart idea.
Speaker 4:I will say this the never-give-up attitude that these two have is a very, very big thing to elevate those odds.
Speaker 3:We know you guys are hardworking and put a lot of effort and time into such an awesome sport, but what do you guys do outside of this?
Speaker 1:Jeremy.
Speaker 8:So, yeah, this is kind of just a hobby for me. You know, racing has been something that's been a part of my life for a long time. My dad raced motorcycles professionally motorcycles professionally and then, um, when I started coming around, uh started racing motorcycles growing up and then got into cars uh, when my dad got into cars way before I was around actually and then um would race with my brother and uh, so what I do full-time is I'm a fireman and a paramedic, uh work for the los angeles county fire, so that's my everyday deal. And yeah, just I'm fortunate enough to get to race with Turbo Herbst Motorsports and ride around in a 199 Industries race truck. So super grateful for the Herbst family, yeah that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:So racing is a great hobby of mine as well. Grew up being a part of it, love it. Being at these races a part of it, love it it's. Being at these races are the most fun you can have. But I am currently, I would say, in the project management role in our development group at Terribles and we kind of, I mean, do a little bit of everything. But that kind of sums it up. But I do whatever I'm asked, but I'm more in the project management right now.
Speaker 4:Oh, I got a really good question, Bella, that I got DM'd yesterday when they knew Thor was going to be on the show. Where did the name Terribles and the iconic cowboy come from?
Speaker 1:So the name Terribles came from my great-grandpa. Whenever he would open a store next to a competitor in a new town, they called him that Terrible Herbst SOB, yeah, son of a, b, and so he coined it Terrible Herbs and that's what they ended up calling all their stations and then, as of I think I would say maybe eight years ago, we got rid of the Herbs because everybody, when they go to one of our stores, they say we're going to Terribles, they only say we're going to Terrible Herbs. So we've really branded it as just Terrible's now, which is probably good, yeah, but the bad guy, honestly I'm not quite sure. I think the bad guy came from a contest, maybe, or somebody drew it. I really don't know.
Speaker 4:I don't know the true answer to that. It fits perfect. And then you got your guy B-More designing all the new logos and all those new T-shirts and stuff, just tearing it up with the bad guy.
Speaker 1:I love it. Shout out to B-More. He has done an amazing job and all those videos behind you Bella are from him and couldn't have been done without him, and George yeah that's super.
Speaker 4:Yeah, be more does a good job. Hey, we're not. We're not. You know what you should interview be more one of these times, bella. But uh, he's nominated for an Emmy again, so we hope he gets it extremely, extremely, extremely talented.
Speaker 3:Yes, Really cool. I was always wondering why it was called Terribles. Yeah, because we would always go to the works races or Best in Desert or the Mint 400.
Speaker 4:It's all around Nevada, everywhere we would stop and yeah, but it's like the exact opposite, though, because you go in there to get all kinds of delicious stuff, like granola bars and sodas and whatever you want, and you come out and you feel exactly opposite of terrible.
Speaker 3:But my blood sugars feel terrible. I'll tell you that. Well, I do kind of want to talk about what you've accomplished, you know, outside of racing. I know that you went to college in San Diego. That's pretty cool. What have you applied to your life with the job that you do and with racing from the degree that you have?
Speaker 1:San Diego was an amazing, amazing experience. I loved it. It was a great city. I was sad to leave but excited to come home. City I I was sad to leave but excited to come home. Um, I, I do a lot of, I kind of do a lot of stuff outside of racing and work and I uh try to be a good friend and visit my friends all the time and uh do things and go to like back to parker's and I'm sure everybody's familiar with that and go to outdoor activities, what that are not racing, that are more like water sports, skiing, mountain biking, anything like that. I try to stay pretty busy.
Speaker 4:It's that whole work-life balance right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, and obviously work comes first before racing, before anything, obviously work comes first before racing, before anything. So, but I've been very fortunate in growing up in the family that has provided for me and I want to give that back.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's pretty cool. That's super cool. Well, and Jeremy puts a lot of hard work in too. Bill, like we've been talking about this whole show and, in fact, your other show too, like all of these things and the reason that you want to interview all these guests is because they're such hard workers and they have such good attitudes, right, and that's something that we can all learn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, especially me, because growing up and like having not having to but choosing to work for my family and family business and also trying to balance racing and just kind of having that perfect balanced life. It does come with a lot of work and a lot of effort and just kind of having that perfect balanced life. It does come with a lot of work and a lot of effort and a lot of time.
Speaker 4:So being able to talk to someone that kind of has it a lot more figured out than I do yeah, I was gonna say how do you manage your time, jeremy, because you have a lot of stuff going on as well.
Speaker 8:Um, yeah, I uh for the fire department. Um, you know, as it's 24 hour shifts, so that does provide for, you know, a decent time at at home. Um, you know, obviously my family comes first and foremost to me. Um, you know, I'd walk away from everything just to, you know, be able to spend more time with my family.
Speaker 8:So the career that- I'm in gives me the opportunity to spend a lot of time with my family as well. As you know, go do what I love, which is go in racing. You know that's a little bit as to why I chose that career. You know, obviously the benefit of helping people and everything else is great, but uh, yeah, you know I used to to work. I worked in the off-road industry prior, um, you know, and was just kind of getting burnt out of it and going racing wasn't as much fun, so kind of taking a step away from it just to not be surrounded by it all the time. Um, it gives you a lot more excitement when you are around it and going to the races is a lot more fun.
Speaker 4:Yeah, absolutely Bella. I think that's a perfect segue to talk about family, because your brother is the next person on the show, right he?
Speaker 3:is yeah. Being able to share a sport, especially that you have so much passion for, with your family members makes it a lot easier, because then it's like oh, I'm not missing a family event to go racing. I'm going racing with my family.
Speaker 8:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 3:Grateful.
Speaker 4:All right, gentlemen, thank you very much for coming on the show and taking the time out of your guys' busy schedule. I cannot wait to see you guys in a couple weeks, I know. Thank you.
Speaker 3:Yeah absolutely Greatly appreciate it. It was so nice talking to both of you and just getting to learn more about the industry, but I hope that the next races go pretty smooth for you guys. And yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 8:Appreciate you having us Thank you, yeah, shout out to everybody at Terrible, terrible Herbert's motor sports and one nine industries Uh, thank you so much for all that they do. Those guys are working on the trucks nonstop, you know, which gives us the opportunity to go do what we do. So, um, you know, not just the guys in the shop, but, uh, you know, guys like George and be more that are able to produce all this. You know, all of our footage out to to everybody. You know it's only making the sport better. So, you know, thanks to everybody that supports us and is behind us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 4:Dreamwork makes the dream work. Boys, let's go.
Speaker 8:That's right Two in a row Appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Thank you guys, two in a row.
Speaker 8:See you guys.
Speaker 1:See ya.
Speaker 4:I love this off-road community, Bella.
Speaker 3:Like I can't tell you how much like my heart is smiling. I know I would say that went pretty good.
Speaker 4:Well, for everything that's going on with the show I mean, well, and literally every show that you've done so far, uh, all right, is your brother going to join us on Instagram or is he going to studio? He?
Speaker 3:bailed on me in the studio. I think he got a little camera shy, but he should be on Instagram.
Speaker 4:Alright, let me see if I can get him on here real quick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, it was super cool talking to Thor and Jeremy, getting a different perspective.
Speaker 4:I have never personally spoke to them, so but Alright, let's see if we can get this young legend, cruz Bouchard, on got the camera, but we don't got him the cat away.
Speaker 3:Cat was busy so cruz bouchard is 15 years old. He works from earth. He's from bandon, california. He's been racing side by side since the young age of seven. Um cruz has worked his way through the youth classes, intermediate classes and is now competing at a pro level in both short course and desert racing. So Cruz has got a lot of championships under his belt and a lot of wins in general. But we're kind of here to just talk about his Whoa. Hold on, what's up, Cruz?
Speaker 7:Sorry, I'm struggling here.
Speaker 4:Did that feel kind of weird, you're having problems, you're probably like that.
Speaker 3:It was.
Speaker 7:All right, there we go.
Speaker 3:I like it. He's repping you, George.
Speaker 7:I know I wear this hat every day. This is my hat.
Speaker 4:I saw Chase. Chase had his on too. He's trying to copy your style.
Speaker 7:I saw that he's always trying to copy my style. I don't know why.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Thank you for repping dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, it is a little odd having Cruz on here, but I'm glad that you could set apart some time from your busy schedule.
Speaker 4:Hey Bella, I want to say something real quick before.
Speaker 3:I don't think it's odd at all.
Speaker 4:I think this is fantastic because this goes along exactly with the stuff that we've been talking about about family, about camaraderie, about, you know, love, support mechanism, all of this stuff and you guys spent a lot of time together, so having him on the show is awesome yeah, it's pretty cool being able to, yeah, again, share the sport with a sibling, but also kind of share.
Speaker 3:You know what the sport has brought me, which is this podcast, so figured I could bring both my brothers on here, my actual blood brother and you know the one that.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 3:Pretty much twins, but I did. I know you have a big, you know you're working on your racing career and stuff, but you're also kind of working on working in the shop and kind of with parts and starting west coast racing services.
Speaker 7:so kind of give us a rundown on that um, yeah, working in the shop and really west coast racing services with a lot of people I I really like to spend my day with and have spent spend and share time with them in the shop and machining parts and making parts for people and it's really all in-house and kind of just I don't know learning the whole thing and seeing how everything gets built and put together and really the team it takes to bring it all in one piece. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 4:I think it's kind of cool too, bellalla, because I was thinking about it the other day like, um, everybody in the shop, obviously it's your, your family and and cruise and everybody else that comes into the shop and you get your workers and stuff. But it takes a special person and it tunes you up more like now that cruise is working on these parts and building these parts. He's going to get in the race car, he's going to test these parts, he's going to feel them a little bit different, he's going to provide feedback different than somebody that's just an engineer, that's just making parts right. So there's a lot of cohesiveness that comes from him learning at such a young age how to do these things, because it all meshes together at some point yeah, or even someone that's just racing and not building parts or not spending time in the shop.
Speaker 3:There's two different perspectives. You know the builder and then the driver, but when you have both and you put them together, it kind of benefits you as a maker of any part you want or a driver jeremy mcgrath said that earlier.
Speaker 4:He said that. So a lot of these guys don't know how to feel or work on the bikes right like. That's what cruise is learning right now.
Speaker 3:It's amazing, yeah no, being able to understand how a car functions, how it works and you know how to tailor it to your specific driving is pretty beneficial especially.
Speaker 4:Is that hard for you cruise or is it easy to like kind of understand all that stuff?
Speaker 7:honestly it was I struggled bad with I would I'd honestly just say, yeah, I know what I'm talking about and I have no clue what I'm talking about and then I'll go on Google and research it five minutes later. But definitely a lot of people's help in telling me what and what not to know and what to do, and that's really helped me progress in how I feel my car and how I like really look at everything and how I, you know, every time I go onto the track I think, okay, is this on, is this on? I'd run every bolt in my head and I really it. Yeah, it's definitely helped in many ways are you a good listener?
Speaker 4:you like asking questions, because I feel like those are the things that you're going to gain the most from now uh, I don't know if I'd say I'm a good listener, but I I do.
Speaker 7:I listen behind the door.
Speaker 4:I guess you could say I don't know if that's the phrase, but I secretly listen, yeah yeah, I know what you mean, because sometimes it takes a little different processing method, right like you ask the question and you're like I don't know, and then it takes you a couple hours and you're like well maybe it did make a little bit of sense.
Speaker 4:I honestly do that a lot too, because, um, you know, you think you know, but maybe you didn't, and then you second guess yourself. But I think that the fact that you have an open mind and open perspective is what will get you further yeah, it definitely.
Speaker 7:It definitely helps being able to see from other people's perspective and really understand in different ways yeah, yeah, I kind of want to talk about um.
Speaker 3:You know, we all know richard. Richard is our mechanic. But um, richard is not only your mechanic, he's your friend first of all, and also your co-driver. So having someone fulfill all those roles, especially in one program, one racing program, that's pretty cool to see, explain that kind of friendship you got going on.
Speaker 7:Yeah. So I pretty much see Richard every single day of my life, even on the weekends pretty much. So he's pretty much family to me now, family to me now, and it's uh, it's pretty cool to be able to see him every day and even get to race with him every time and talking to him and seeing how many things I can learn because of even his past background he, I mean, he's been sent off with hundreds of teams, I'm sure and the knowledge he has and what I'm really happy that he can share with me is it's a very good thing and I'm very thankful for it.
Speaker 4:Do you see him like more than you see your sister and your mom and dad?
Speaker 7:Honestly, I do Probably, I probably do honestly.
Speaker 3:No he definitely does. But no, that is pretty cool, we are definitely very lucky. But no, that that is pretty cool, we are definitely very lucky. I would say a lot of people have kind of like not not a lot of people, but some people have flowed in and out of our pit crew.
Speaker 7:But, um, you know, to have like a pretty good solid lineup now, especially like moving forward, because things are getting more serious for you and yeah, having those people here too, it's usually the consistent lineup of all the people that we know and we can count on being there, and it's thankful for those people.
Speaker 3:Yeah for sure I did want to give you the option to talk about your future in the racing. But if you want to give us a sneak peek, you can. If not, that's cool, but tell us what you got going on yeah.
Speaker 7:So, um, we do have some big things coming up. I'm I do want to say it, but I don't really know, honestly. You know I'm not fully. I mean, I am familiar with the situation and what is happening, but I don't think me or the team are ready to, I guess, fully announce it as in what we are coming up. It'll be soon, for sure, within the next six to seven months, it will be a for sure thing. But I will say he did join the live a little bit ago. You guys, if you get bored, you can scroll through and try to find him.
Speaker 4:Big things.
Speaker 3:For sure. Well, we're glad to hear it. George, you got anything.
Speaker 4:No, I just think it's so cool that you guys are doing this and you guys are expanding things. Like Bella, you're doing such a great job and you know, inviting your brother on uh is is super cool. We know that Cruz is a little bit camera shy, but he's been opening up a lot and I think it's been pretty awesome to be able to see him expand on it, especially with maybe some of these future plans that we don't know what they are.
Speaker 4:I'm sure some people do hey Cruz, I was gonna ask you, though, do you like, what do you do when you're not at the shop? I know you spend a lot of time there, but like, obviously you know, the whole golf thing came up with Jeremy McGrath Like that's that whole work-life balance that we were just talking about with Thor. Like, what else do you guys do?
Speaker 7:Yeah, so other than me going to the shop pretty much every day, you know I don't really golf that much, honestly, believe it or not, but uh, and when I do it's definitely a fun time. I feel like the first one to two holes aren't very, I mean, they're golfy but they're not golfing. The last, the last nine, ten, however many we decide to do, are mainly golf cart driving. But uh, other than that, it's, it's uh, riding, riding around I guess, and really going to the race shop yeah, it takes a lot of, though.
Speaker 4:Like a lot of uh what do you call it? Patience and listening and understanding. Like when you have that, uh, uh, what do you call it? Golf is not racing right, it's the exact opposite. Like, so complete opposite it teaches you so much yeah you, the golf cart's.
Speaker 7:Good though it's something to drive while you're having that patience time away from racing he likes being more of the caddy than he does the actual golfer yeah, I suggest a club to use when I'm driving around that's hilarious.
Speaker 3:I personally go golfing with him again what sorry? Oh, all right, my bad well, I would say that wraps up my questions for you um can we give cruise the opportunity to ask us a question?
Speaker 7:oh, I'm not a good question asker. I don't know what I'd ask.
Speaker 4:Well, like what about? Oh, what would you ask Bryce Menzies if you could?
Speaker 7:Oh, endless questions.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm saying like I know you want to drive a Mason, but he's not going to let you do that. So what's the next question?
Speaker 7:Honestly the next one, honestly what the next question would be when can I get in your co-driving seat and take me for a spin? Oh, in the mason.
Speaker 4:You're gonna, you're gonna kick oran out of there yep or no at the co-drive.
Speaker 7:Co-drive, actually, that's. They'll be kicking out. Yeah, I'm to borrow it from him.
Speaker 4:Perfect.
Speaker 7:But that'd be my question.
Speaker 4:I got to sit in a mason yesterday.
Speaker 7:Did you?
Speaker 4:I wasn't. Yeah, it was pretty cool. I mean we weren't moving. We were standing still, but it was still awesome. Yeah, it's still a good feeling, yeah For sure. It was cool, though, man.
Speaker 7:I'm glad that you got to come on the show. Yeah, I am too. Thank you for inviting me. I know I appreciate it.
Speaker 3:But I'm glad I got to ask some questions, kind of get a sneak peek of what you got for the future and I'll see you in like 15 minutes at home yeah, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 4:Cruz is holding out, though. Thanks, buddy. Thanks for getting us all amped up. We got to wake up.
Speaker 7:Whatever you're doing. Yeah, Thank you guys. Thank you.
Speaker 4:Hold on.
Speaker 7:Joseph, what's your favorite song right now? Right now, dude, you guys know who Men at Work is Down Under. Yeah, that's it. I don't even know what to say. You got the trumpet playing. I that's it. I don't even know what to say. You got the trumpet playing. I know it's odd, huh, it puts you in like a zone, it's nice, I think we got the clip now, bella, we're just going to put him on the show and just play from the land down.
Speaker 3:Yep, I'm down, that's the song Later, homie, see you.
Speaker 7:Thank you guys.
Speaker 4:Thank you guys. Thank you, Bella, you're doing such a great job. I think this is fantastic.
Speaker 6:There we go.
Speaker 4:Cruz got it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was pretty cool having him on for a second.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it is cool. It's a vibe Dude, that song I don't know.
Speaker 3:Oh guess we taught him that Really you did. Oh yeah, I teach him all the good music.
Speaker 6:Oh man, you guys, I love it.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, I think it's time for closing, but I would say we had some pretty good conversations with some pretty cool people. You know some. Most of these I started off with this is like the first time I'm actually talking to the person on phone call, it's just like so I think you did a really good job.
Speaker 4:And like uh, one of the things that I was thinking before we got on this too was like uh, I don't know like we're kind of throwing you in the fire right, like you didn't know what to expect, but you really just adjusted to it and you did a great job, and I think that's something that you can use to learn for the future. So you're doing a really killer job, you're already on episode eight.
Speaker 4:You bypass number seven. You're like going like, so anything from here is up and up Right, and you did a great job today, even though you had to handle it all on your own, so kudos to you.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much. I greatly appreciate this opportunity. I mean, it had to be a little different this time, but I think we got it figured out, and maybe it was just a blessing in disguise for me to do something on my own.
Speaker 4:Totally All right. Go get some food, get some dinner. Thank you very much, Bella. Thank you All right, we'll see you guys later. If you guys want to, we will actually tell direct message everybody that won the hats. So you guys will get a message from the Dirt Life show and then Maxis or Jamie McGrath or myself will send you a hat. So good job to all the winners.
Speaker 3:Thank you guys for watching. I hope you guys were entertained, as I am, but we will be back for episode number nine, so I'll see you guys soon. Bye, bella Out.
Speaker 4:All right. So I just want to thank all the sponsors before we take off. So thank you to the guys at KMC Wheels, Maxxis Tires, Motul, Shock Therapy, JL Audio, Evolution, Power Sports, Doliger Racing Products and Vision Canopy. We really appreciate everybody.
Speaker 6:Thanks for listening to the Dirt Life Show. See you next week. We'll be right back.
