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Baja 500 Recap with Bryce Menzies, Blake Wilkey, Brock Heger & More

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Welcome to the dirt life show with your host George Hamil. Yeah What is up guys welcome to the dirt life show we have a Baja 500 recap today. It was so crazy down in Mexico man. Lots of fun, man. The pace was just unreal. We're gonna talk to a bunch of people a bunch of cool people we got Bryce Menzies overall winner Trophy Truck winner, Oren Anderson helped him pilot that bad Menzies truck to the finish line in first place. We also got the players factory guys, Brock, Hager, Ethan groom, and Adam Arsenal gonna come on, talk to us about their overall UTV win. And I think it's called Pro UTV unlimited. So that's going to be pretty badass. Blake Wilkie everybody knows Blake Wilkie and Harrison. We see they're gonna come on kind of crazy to see Blake in a UTV Right. Like we're used to seeing him in a Volkswagen. We're used to seeing him in his, like a class 11 were you seeing him in his trophy bug? So that'd be cool to talk with him. Brian more, do it for be more. He's going to come on. Tell us how it was looking at everything from the sky dealing with the chasing with the herbs, guys. Then they did fantastic this weekend, too. It was really cool to see. Ryan mill and Troy our excuse me, Tim? Thor Pierce everybody. So we'll talk with him about that. Maybe you can talk a little about the Starlink stuff. That was pretty cool. And then finally we're going to talk with the Moto dudes. So Maloo is so gnarly in the desert. We're gonna talk with Connor Eddie. Matt columns, Matt Eddie. Maybe their whole crew will join. Where do you brace on in just a second here with Oren. But first I want to say thank you to all of our sponsors. You just saw him right there. KMC wheels thanks to the guys at Max's tires. We have some cool stuff. We're gonna give away a Jeremy McGrath Max's autographed podium hat probably next week, when we do our short course. First round review. Thanks, guys. Motul thanks, guys over a shock therapy. Go get yourself some shock therapy parsley got a new website coming up. So you can get some discounts there using the code dirt life. Thanks to all the guys the JL Audio for keeping us pump in evolution Power Sports. Thanks, Todd and all those guys for making that much power. Thanks to guys that resigned to racing products and vision canopies, Kyle and Doug retag and all those guys they had a really good race down in Baja too. So alright, so without further ado, let's get Bryce and or let's get get them going real quick. And thanks to James and all the guys at img motorsports for letting us use the shop to have the show. So appreciate that. Bryce Menzies. What's up, man. What's happening, guys? How are you? We're doing pretty good. Dude, I appreciate you coming on Oren. What's up, dude? What's up, George? How you doing? Doing good, man. So the way I see it on the screen, it's reversed because Bryce is in the passenger seat. And now Oren is in the driver's seat. Is that ever going to happen? No, I have a super fear of riding with anybody. I think I've only written with like Rob MCAC room once Jesse Jones. Other than that, I terrified a variety person. Was the was the best one to ride with Robert Jesse. Probably Jesse just because the stories and how much chaos goes on at all the times. I'll remember those forever. Dude, no doubt. That's pretty cool, man. Hey, so we're talking about the Baja 500 You got to still be on a pretty big high man. Because dude, that race was pretty awesome. You haven't won the Baja 500 In a little while actually. But then you come across the finish line first. You had all the fanfare you got sprinkled by some beer at the end. You got the champagne like it has appeal feel pretty good. Now that it's set in? Yeah, it's awesome. It's crazy to think that it's been almost it's been nine years do you guys have 14 was our last ball fight honor win. So it just kind of shows what the competition is how tough ball is just a beat itself. So it was a cool moment, just with the team. I think our team is really working really hard trying to get these trucks to live. It's tough with all the guys having all the drives now how the level of competition that's at. So to get another win. It always feels good. And it just shows how hard it is. It's been a year so pretty cool. Well did. So there's a couple things that I get from that. So I have two questions. But first and foremost, eight years trying and trying and trying. That's a level of dedication that most people don't have. You should really really give yourself some props for that because that's hard work and dedication. Yeah, no, that's a Aida it didn't really I didn't really realize it till they told me at the finish like how long it's been. It's been Same thing with 1000. So it's tough to always just keep coming back and trying to win these races. But the feeling that you get from winning is what you keep fighting for what you keep striving for. So it's pretty cool to come away have a whole new group club. I had my daughter there. So it's pretty cool to have that my wife, all my friends, my family, pretty much everybody on my team is my family. So really cool to see and experience again. It is cool. Lauren, did you get to feel some of that emotion coming? I know you have your own emotion as well across the finish line. But did you get to feel some of that from Bryce and all the people around you? It's exactly like he says, you know, we focus so much event to event like you don't think about how long it's been since your last big success at that event. Like the year goes by pretty quick when you're just going race to race. But when they announced that, and for me, I mean, it's been even longer for me, like to be a part of a Baja 500 overall win like that. And that was my first I prepped cars. That one overall, that was my first time for the Baja 500 actually navigating so that was that was a big one for me in the right seat. Really? Yeah, yeah. So I've been a part of teams that have won it when I was helping work on their car, like with herps and Riviera and stuff like that back in the day. But that was my first in car victory. And to get to do that with Bryce. I mean, I love racing with bryce Bryce is by far my my favorite driver, I'm a fanboy of Bryce Menzies. But to do that, I just have the run that we had. There's just a great day. And it was awesome. Man, the whole group is, is top notch. So I got a few questions. But before we do that, I want to go along with what Bryce was saying, like with all the all wheel drives and stuff, it's been looking at kind of like a development process, right? You guys are both going through it every time it gets worked up. It's better the next race, it's better than next race. But the field is evening out a little bit, right? Like it's kind of stacking up so to speak, is it difficult to keep up with those trends and to like, keep pushing forward as you have to build and develop the program? Yes, definitely tough just just to prep a truck and get it ready for a race is a feat in itself, and then also tried to be able to go test, develop new stuff to be different than the other teams out there. Which is pretty cool. And that's one thing that I think keeps us around and my family around is my dad loves to innovate, try new things. So he's always coming up with some crazy ideas that we're all scratching our head out. But that's kind of where you need to go with this sport to be ahead of the next guy. So he's always trying to see what's the next thing to go, what's the next thing? It's gonna be faster? We're out there testing all the time. So it just shows those same guys, it seems like you're always up front running, or the guys that put in a ton of work ton of time, and a ton of pre running. So it's pretty cool to see the level of competition where it is that if you have like one little smallest Vegas seems like you're not going to win a race. Yeah, totally. It's kind of crazy, right? We're getting so many funny comments. So thank you all for joining in hanging out with us. So one of the things that I was thinking along that like, on a personal note, as we get older, and like as we develop as racers and just human beings in general, I kind of feel like you guys are saying the same thing that I figured out in the last couple years. Like I'm addicted to progress, like more than anything else. I feel like you guys are the same way. Yeah, I wouldn't be doing it if, if I didn't look at it that way. It's been like I said, it's been 13 years since I've been trying to win a ball with 1000s. So the way I look at defeat is as long as we learned something from it, we understand what we did wrong in what we could do going forward, then it is just a learning aspect. And it's how we go about it. And that's that's daily life. You know, I think Baja and racing has really helped me develop into a better man a better father just because of all the triumphs how hard it is down there, that stuff you go through. It's never easy to it's never going to get there for sure. It's weird how like, how it like trains you for life, so to speak, right? Hey, look, there's your boy Jones you just signed on to so what's up, Jesse? All right. So we had some some fan questions come in throughout, like the last week or so as we were posting this and kind of getting ready for everything. So one of the fans is actually part of your team. Wes Lafleur he actually said Oren How was how about that line to pass Luke? I guess it was some sketchy line like where there was a massive cliff on the side yeah, both both those lines right there the loop the line Luke was on the line we're on they're both like it's right after you're dropping down the summit. They're both hairy the one he was on his like these big rock steps. And we took the longer line around just to get some clean air and and Bryce wanted to make a run and try and get the passing but I mean, they were not like bitch and pass lines like neither one of these I wanted to go fast sound so cut price price picked it up a little bit. It looked like Luke might might have already been limping at that point maybe a little bit with the steering or trying to save the truck. And And Bryce Yeah, it was It wasn't even a trophy truck with line that were Banzai and down and it's passenger side is cliffside so I'm just like, I feel like I'm already freefall and hanging off this thing. But but it was really cool in that moment to get around and then have clean air the rest of the day from there but yeah, it was the summit sketchy man there's some good pucker spots on that section for sure. How does that work? Right so orange just say hey, go this way and you're like, oh, shit, now I gotta freakin squeeze the Charmin through this line or what we we pre ran both of those in like our better line with the left line which loot hooking coming down. I kind of said whatever one he takes, we're going to take the other one and right when he went left, I went right. And I went to go push and actually right when we're in it, right, I clicked a big rock. I didn't even see it. Somehow it grabbed the wheel and actually bent the steering. Probably just 15% to the left. And right there. I'm like, Are you kidding me? Like really, we didn't need to do that when we erase my 100 So I've erased the rest of the race with the steering wheel paddles bent to the left but it worked out to pass anybody on the summit is not fun. It's not where you want to pass somebody. It's Rocky it's sketchy. So we realized I think Luke was having an issue and right there I just wanted to get around and before he slowed us up anymore with the issue us having so it was fun to get around and then we kind of just cruise from there. It is so crazy. Like that probably like those emotions where those decisions probably happened 169 times as you guys are out there right like because there's so many split second decisions like was there anything else sketchy that you guys were like do that was a close? Well, I would say towards the end once we got through sand positi where it drops down through the coast. it up we had a really big lead and my dad's like alright, just chill. You guys are good crews it from here. And I took my eye off the ball for one second and it came over rise and Oren called it rock on right in the rear just stepped out and I caught this rock and I thought I thought it broke the caliber the rotor like ruined the race. My heart literally fell through my chest and I started to freak out a second words like do you let me get out? Look, he got out everything was fine. But it's moments like that that. I mean, I couldn't tell the last mile of the ball 500 Something had happened. So you never know what that race? Dude. Yeah, it's kind of crazy, right? Like, but that like, I don't know, the feeling of racer or being in the in the truck, driver seat, passenger seat, whatever it is, like, I don't know, you've got like, it's something that you can't like, give up because you're always on edge the whole time. And then it's like when you cross the finish line, you still can't breathe, but it's like you took a deep breath. Absolutely, like, I don't want to celebrate or get excited until that we're past the checkered flag. Like even on the 37 mile an hour, you know, 10 mile long speed zone to the finish line. Like I'm still holding my breath till I know the time stopped and we're out of it. Like it's just one of those things where even knowing you've been like Bryce ran a great race. We had a comfortable lead for for the better part of the day. But it's like, I didn't want to even think anything that would jinx that. And with our luck. I mean, we're kind of the kings of the Trophy Truck. Bad luck. And if it can happen, it does happen to us. So I just want to shut my mouth until we get past the checkers. I don't start smiling until this somebody hands me a beer. Yeah, exactly. I saw that happen, too. But yeah, so first of all, congratulations, or the fans sprinkle some beer on you. Right. Well, so let that was cool to see. Like there was a couple of videos that showed that man like just the appreciation of all the fans in bajas kitchen. It's, uh, it's pretty cool. I've won a lot of races. And that was probably one of the coolest moments was we were kind of cruising through and we got to a little drive back to where our hotel is. So we put our helmets on and I was pretty smart to put my bumper on shut my visor and or just had his helmet on the visor open. And the first guy handed me a beer and I took it and kind of did the, the shake part. And all of a sudden, we just started getting doused in. It was one of those cool celebrations, and then we got through and I look over and there's literally beer just like pouring down or in space. It was one of them. That's awesome. Aidan Gleason's radio shout out What's up, buddy? Yeah, so like, take us back a little bit because the race didn't go perfectly smooth. Like you still had to change the tires, you still had to make sure that you were in the pits and stuff. But one of the comments that came in was saying that look, Orion, it was like lightning fast changing tires, this race where you use your spinach or what did you know? It's those things that, you know, track positions, everything in a race like this, right? So knowing who was behind us knowing where we were and how, how the pace of the race was going to be? I mean, we probably ran it. We pre ran for eight days. So we saw it get dusty and silty and it's not something where we didn't want to be back any farther than third. Right? So if you have a slow tire change with how competitive that field is right now like if you're slow tire change or losing position. So I had just mentally been grilling, like the procedure of where exactly I grab on the strap where I clip it, how long trying to get my end as quick and just, you know, methodical as possible so that if we did have to stop, it was just as smooth as possible on my end. I mean, there's so much unpredictable stuff that happens when you get out of the truck for a tire change or anything that, you know, just trying to be smooth and fast and not make any mistakes. I'll get in as quick as possible. And hopefully keep Bryce in the same spot that we are in, dude. Yeah, that's kind of crazy, right? Because it's almost like muscle memory in your brain. And like, all of a sudden, everything just starts lining up and matching. Bryce, we have a couple questions come in. One of the questions for that is that guy changed the first hire, I want to say it was less than 40 seconds. Oh, it was a thing. I swear I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a time. But the first one right when I got it, I was, uh, I felt I got it. I earned it. I felt it slide into a rock on the outside wall. And it in blew it out right away. And my dad's like, alright, called over the radio to our pit. And it's only I think it was only like a mile or something. And they're like, just drive it to the road. But I knew I couldn't make it. And I'm like, Dude, if we get passed right here, like, it's gonna be a long day. And we pulled over and he got out. And by the time he got back in, I literally was just looking at him. Like, did you even change the tire? So I think he had two of those that were 40 seconds. And then the other two were like 45. So just unreal day, dude, that's wild. So like when he was banging on the side of the truck to let the jack down? Were you like do what is somebody else? I thought something was going on like an issue. But it's crazy how fast he's gotten in to change those tires and how heavy they are. It's pretty cool. That's what I'm saying. You've been eating your Wheaties or I did sometimes. You know every dog has its day. That was like my day right there. Right? We clicked it down. We got it done. I didn't. It definitely doesn't feel that fast when you're in the when you're going through it. But the only thing I've learned is that the faster you do them, the less tired you get. So if I can just fast I'm not breathing and hard reading the next one. So when you're trying it but I don't know after hearing those times. I don't even think that's real. So got to kind of see what I can do to stay out. It would be kind of cool if we could figure it all out. Alright, so Bryce, we had a question come in. How fast can the trophy truck go? I want to say some mine. I think we ran 145 was like the top speed on it that we did. Oh, how does that feel in a trophy truck Fred some of the audience that can never ever feel that in their life. It's, it's asked enough. Honestly, you're driving a 7000 pound missile through the desert at 140 miles an hour is pretty incredible. There's only so many people that have been lucky enough to do it. And it's one of those amazing feats for sure. So I saw I want to wind this down a little bit cuz we got to get the Polaris guys on in like three minutes here. But I saw some videos from a really awesome video guys named Justin Chase. And I don't know if you guys know him, but do some of the car control that I saw you have at this year's 500. Bryce was honestly it was mind blowing. Like we're talking about r&b and onpoint like doing his tire changes, like the whole team seemed to have this like extra level of synergy, right you behind the wheel them in the pits or in in the CO driver see orange changing tires? Like, what gives you guys that little advantage? I mean, is it just practice and muscle memory? Or is it just a vibe? I would say it's a little bit of both. But also it's it's your connection with your co driver, you have to feel confident when you're driving into a corner. Now now that he likes to I noticed when I start to scare him, he'll call out mile, mile per hour. He's like, Hey, we're going to this corner at 120 miles an hour. But if I don't trust that guy and believe that He knows exactly what he's saying, I'm going to slow down. So I think the guy behind the camera filming always makes it look way better than it is. But I don't know the reason that I could go that fast just because the notes that I'm getting and how comfortable we are in the call. Yeah, there was a couple times I don't remember what it was. But it was one video that was posted. It was almost like short course style, right? Like, it looked like you started the corner. I don't know it was probably maybe a 16th of a mile ahead and you started getting crooked and I was just like Dude, he's pointing perfect pointing perfect. And then all of a sudden you could see you just barely get on the gas and it was like just started biting and I was like Dude, that was the most crispy perfect corner so I can only imagine how it felt in the vehicle. There he had like all the hundreds of corners like that right where it's just like it's set up. It was like for me that's the closest I'll ever get to being in like a pro for but I told him after the race like this section finishing the crossover road on like those fast pleated roads and then going up to Santa Tomas, where it's that's like that I don't think there's a section Bryce's better trained and prepared for that stuff. Like, I have to let go the seat after those sections of like, like, I'm still calling notes the whole time, but I grip my seat so hard just like I'm not ready to back into a corner at 98 miles an hour. I'm just like, I gotta relax for a little bit to just chill out and get back into it after that. It's it's a it's an insane rush ride with that guy. Dude, it just hearing those stories like, you know, when you're on a roller coaster for people that haven't been in a trophy truck, like I can only imagine that feeling dude, it's, it's gotta be so cool. Like me being the host and obviously the people that are listening. It's so cool to get that level of detail from you guys. So I appreciate it. Alright, so we got to get the hilarious guys on well let leave you with one last question. Bryce, you go first and then orange, you go second. What was your favorite part of the whole weekend race? Man. Honestly, I would say my favorite part was getting to the compound after we won and just seeing my daughter it's pretty cool where my mindset used to go from like winning a race to losing the race it was really up and down my emotions and now it's no matter what happens as long as I get back to her and just seeing how excited she was and and that we could all be down there and have a family vibe is what it's all about. So these races will come and go but honestly, it's all about family vibe. And I think that was one of the coolest moments here. Yeah, heart. All right, or And what about you, buddy? coolest moment for me. You know, like my family was back at home they're watching so I didn't have one of those connections. But definitely like just coming in and celebrating with the team after that when sliding into the compound on the trophy truck and having everyone there and like Bryce said earlier the family atmosphere that that part was great. But the the beer shower trip. I was we were talking about like next time we finished the race like I'm grabbing beer for the weekend. Get out. I'm going to host those people back because I was but I'm not coming in empty handed. Do another freakin beer fight. You gotta come in with your own ammo. Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, boys. Hey, thank you very much. Congratulations for everything. Is there anything else you got? You want to thank anybody before we get the players and guys lOn. I just want to thank all the fans of Baja. Thank you for having us on. We love racing down there. It's really cool to see how they greet us how cool it is. And my hat's off to one a man this guy's one badass co driver, not a deer. Thank you for the kind words Bryce I appreciate it. makes the dream work. Thanks, boys. Enjoy your family. Enjoy your night. We'll see you guys later. Congratulations, you guys. Thank you. Alright, so let's get rock Hager on here. We're going to get Ethan groom him arsenal, the overall winners in the UTV class as well. And the I think it's called Pro UTV unlimited as well. Thank you guys all for commenting in and hanging out with us too. Good to see you guys. What's up, Brock? How are you? Good. It's good to see you, man. How's it feel to be a Baja 500 winner? Feels good. I've never won one of those. So it obviously feels good. Yeah, we're gonna get your co driver, Ethan groom on here real quick, too. And then Adam arsenal is going to join us as well. Let me get him dialed in. Ethan, what's up? What's up? How you guys doing? How are you? Feeling great did oh, I'm gonna give everybody a little bit of a background here. So Brock Hager has been a short course, Ace for a long time. You can drive. But you have an opportunity now to be a big desert guy now. So with Polaris factory off road racing team, it's been pretty cool to see you kind of get used to things. You've done a few races in the past and desert rock, but you're kind of learning at the same time. Right. So it was really cool to see on the top step of the podium. I can only imagine what it felt like for you. Yeah, no, it was good. I mean, obviously, I've grown up since 2008. Doing short course full time. And then yeah, I don't know the past four years. Kind of doing both. And then obviously with the the nuclear program I'm I'm full time desert. I have no plans of short course, though, I think on my agenda is desert. So it's the first time for that. And obviously just putting my focus fully towards desert racing and in the playoffs program. Yeah, that's kind of crazy how it works. Hey, real quick, Adam, please go just update your Instagram app on your phone and then you should be able to log in. So anyways, Ethan it's pretty cool to be able to be part of the team as well because not only do you get to learn a lot, but you probably actually get to help and I don't want to say teach Brock because he doesn't mean much teaching but Excel the program because you've done desert racing for quite a while. Yeah, it's super cool to be able to be a part and kind of like bring my own kind of my own personality and into the team and kind of really mess with all the guys over there. And it's really good programming over there. And I'm glad they gave me the opera. Tuna any kind of help out and it's going great so far. Yeah, it really does seem like it is going great. Like the whole team actually did really well this race and that San Felipe to one of the things I was going to ask you rock is since you're not like you haven't had that much desert racing experience, I know you have but how was the pace this race compared to like what you're used to in the past with the limited amount of desert racing you've done? Because to me, it looked insane fast. Um, I actually just got that question the other day, and yeah, and I think it's, it's different, you know, I've a very certain car for a few years, which, which they're pretty bulletproof. So you can push those cars every six 100. You're pushing those cars? And obviously with the the short amount of time that I have in a UTV? I don't know, I don't know the limits quite yet. So I would say our pay wasn't what I'm used to, obviously short course. I mean, it's, it's all you got, and in your 10 minutes or two minutes span, but I felt like we were cruising, I think, I think the team and the cars and everyone was involved in our side has a little bit more work to do. I think I think we can up our pace and, and get these cars to hopefully beat the 10 cars and hopefully beat some other classes. You guys were up there pretty high. Do you remember what the overall position you guys finished? In was Ethan? I don't know. I was in the 20s, mid 20s. We were in there. We were heading most of the train cars. Kind of right there at the edge. It's 60 or 100. Guys, today. It's pretty crazy, though. Right? Like that's fast. Yeah, it's definitely a big, it's a lot faster than I thought we'd be going. And so it's pretty cool. Like, we had over 100 miles an hour out at the start. And that's the fastest I've ever been in a car. It was a little scary, but Brock knew he was doing so wherever you do, that's cool, man. So UTV can go that fast. Do you remember what your top speed was? What it was? Dude, that's insane how fast these views can go right? I've heard a couple of people saying they got like, I don't know 112 Or something like that. But anything dude like in a stock car. I've done. I've done that, which is pretty wild. It was it was bone stock. It is wild. I remember doing some short course races like when we went up to Reno and we were coming down that big hill like in the wax season we hit 97 and I was like, Dude, I don't know if I feel very much more comfortable going that fast and a UTV Yeah, no, it's pretty wild. It's pretty wild. Just given the fact that anyone can go by pretty much and and do the same thing. It's pretty much what this class is about what these cars with the whole UTV scene is about so obviously it's it's cool that that anyone can do it and and do what we're doing. Dude, it is pretty badass. Right? You can get out of the dealership and buy one atom arsenal. What's up, dude? How are you? Hey, how's it going, George? Thanks for having me on. Yeah, absolutely. Man, you gotta be pretty proud of the boys bringing home a victory. Absolutely, yeah, that was really exciting to see one of the one of the brand new 2023 Polaris factory chassis is initialized first. So we're talking to Bryce a little bit about this, right like how off road racing takes so much behind the scenes work and stuff like that, like give us a little bit of a background on what kind of stuff you guys do to prepare the car for Brock and for Ethan to get into it and make sure that crosses the finish line first of all, and then obviously give them a good car to be able to win. Yeah, now there's a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes I mean, we've got a whole shop of full time guys here who were thrashing nonstop in the in the weeks leading up to a race to make sure that they've got the best possible car they have you know, ideally we want to have zero downtime during the race you know, a day like like rock and Ethan head where they don't have to stop or anything unplanned. And that's kind of the goal you know, when it before it even starts. That's actually a really good thing to say. When it before it starts you guys got to feel pretty confident Ethan, in the machinery and stuff. Haven't dudes like Adam behind you? Oh, yeah. And the whole team over there. They're all great. I actually stopped by earlier today, it is awesome, the spares off from the race. And they're already working hard. It's only been three days since the race and they're full force back at it all day long. And so it's pretty cool to see the amount of time that's been put into these cars. And it really gives us confidence going to the start line knowing that these cars are ready to race. Yeah, that's totally cool. Well, that actually brings up a good point, though, is like there's a lot that happens behind the scenes, like how much do you guys as drivers get an understanding of what's going on behind the scenes like in the pits and chasing and stuff like that? Or do you just leave that to the guys that are in the chase trucks? Adam, Adam obviously makes it super easy on us. That's kind of his deal is preparing everything and and obviously we get to see it. You know, we go to the team meetings, we get a we get to hear everything, you know, the day before the race and kind of what the plan is so um, I have to give a huge thanks to Adam and Ryan and You know, everyone at the shop, they, they put way more effort than me into it, obviously and they give me the easy part to go drive. So that's kind of that's kind of how it goes. I tried to obviously repay them back by by doing what we did at the 500. And and you know, those guys they work their butts off and and make it super easy for for me and Ethan and the whole rest of the boys to do get home the gold is no small feat and and you accent all humble over here. That's a pretty hard job. But yeah, you're right though, like, Adam, can you give us a little bit of understanding like what they're talking about, like what does happen logistically because like, every time I see it for a trophy truck team, a UTV team, even like a class 11 team or, you know, the on the lower left little Johnny racer got, logistically, it's insane to take a vehicle 500 miles through the desert. Absolutely. And that's, that's kind of my area of expertise here on the teams make sure we've got the right people with the right equipment in the right place at the right time. So that, you know, all Brock and Ethan have to do is just keep the car moving. And we're gonna be there waiting for him with fuel and tires and whatever they need. You know, at the 500, they were able to do that they kept the car moving, they kept it up run, and we gave them fuel when they needed. In spite of that there were still some some unplanned challenges that we had to go through. Neither one of them had to get on the car all day long, which is a testament to just the all the engineering and prep that went into the car and in our BF Goodrich tires. But you know, we still had a few small hiccups. Two of our other cars, our team, Austin Weiland, and Caden Catherine, you know, they had some suspension failures early on. And our concern was that we know we didn't want Brock to have a similar failure. So we kind of had an unplanned emergency stop for him at the BF Goodrich pit at Pitou Borrego, and we just got a quick visual on the car to make sure that the issues we had and the other two cars, you know, didn't play again later on in the day. So that was great. Having BF Goodrich tires board out there, it kind of expands, you know, we had a lot of support out there trucks and and equipment. But having their support as well kind of allows us to spread that around more. And then we had a few issues with fuel. And you know, we we had technical issues at our second fuel pit. And our pressurized fueling system didn't operate the way we wanted to we had to switch to the backup with dump cans. So he had a little bit of a longer fuel pit there than we had planned. And there were some concerns he possibly got short fueled. So even even after that we had a second unplanned stopped kind of splashing with some dumpkins from a non team member, you know, we reached out that's what's great about Baja is everybody's you know there to help out however they can so reached out to some friends with Rancho racing and they splash them real quick when he got over to the highway one. So he can make it up to the final pit and bring it in for the win. Dude, that's so crazy. And like so there's a lot of logistical portions, like you can plan all you want, but you got to be out, like operate on the fly, too. I you know, I was thinking, I think you have some military experience, right? 20 years or so. And that probably helped you in all of these decision making processes. I was actually I posted a video on my personal social media yesterday, choices are some of the most important things that you have in life. And that made a big difference in the when you got to the finish line in first your choices. Yeah, absolutely. I think there's a lot of similarities here between between the military and an offer racing because it's all about, you know, you you plan for the worst and hope for the best and it's about overcoming doubt and overcoming those challenges and obstacles that are in front of you. Yeah, I guess because it's it's everybody has to do that. Right? They got to do that rock you have to do it in the driver's seat. Actually, Ethan probably does it even more in his mind keeping you on track adjusting and making sure everything's good. And then all the guys behind the scenes that's pretty wild to think about. Yeah, for sure. There's a lot that goes on that. Not the public eye gets to see. It's cool though, man. Like that makes me feel pretty good. Like just thinking about it. Well, I'm kind of confused in my head at the same time. It feels pretty cool to understand that and Brock you gotta be pumped because that team is so good behind you. Yeah, no. I mean, Adam Adams the he's the guy when it comes to that stuff. So it makes it easy on me and Ethan you know, we just we just try to put ourselves in good shoes and and let it play out and know that that any moment we can that Adam is going to one way or another get us there and give us the best shot at winning the heck yeah, yeah. Was there any sketchy moments like when you were out on course? No, I mean, I was I was watching Bryce's deal you know, and he had like the story of hanging off the edge. We never really we never had anything that was like shoot. At least me personally. Ethan my on the other hand, be like oh, there was this and that and and all this stuff but for the most part I we had an honestly a perfect day. Ethan's never got sketch sheets never did anything. Ethan's like I don't get scared. No. That was my favorite part of writing with Brock. Is it so smooth. And you realize how fast that you're running in the piece that you're running until you look down at the speedometer and oh, wow, we're gonna run really fast and it just feels so controlled. We got a couple of questions that came in how many pre run miles do you guys do? 1700 I mean, really? 1700 miles. Yeah. I'm not sure how much Austin and encouraging them did, but uh, me and Katie were down there for a while. We were having fun. And that's what uh, it was obviously a bummer seeing Caden and Austin and Craig have some issues because they equally put in just as much work as I did. Yeah, exactly. Jeff Jones just asked what mile did it get dark for you guys do you remember we got dark at the end of the speed zone of Oh hose started to go down so probably I don't know five miles after the speed zone is when it was actually dark. So at that point we were pretty much done we were pretty much there. It was just a matter of getting there and keep it on the road and getting that nice long speed zone to the finish out and like when you think about it a couple of years ago like there was almost no way a UTV could finish before at dark like that's insane the pace dude yeah, absolutely it's it's incredible how far they've come and how much competition there is in the class now you know it's it's getting tighter and tighter and that's what we're focusing a lot on our pit and logistics strategy because it's gonna come down where it's it's like the trophy trucks where if you have one issue you know you're gonna win or lose by by minutes or even seconds so we want to make sure that style so it's definitely yeah Brock's Brock's been humble, but you know, his smooth driving and keeping the car alive is is definitely you know, important aspect of it as well. Yeah, totally us that was UTV said you boys around a killer place well done yet and so that's kind of what we're talking about is the pace like to me like I still I can't get over it in my head to understand the pace like that pace was so fast for a UTV but I think about it as well like, Brock's helping to grow Adam you're helping to grow Ethan, you're helping to grow like the whole industry is elevating and going faster, right? Like all of these things, the truck the cars are being built better, like all these cool things are happening. Let's see here professional, drywall finishing asked. Hey, Brock, did you drive the entire course start to finish? Yes, sir. Start to finish that at all. Were you pretty end like, okay, at the end? Um, no, it wasn't bad. It was. You know, there was there was stuff that was obviously keeping me going, having no issues made it nice and easy. Obviously, going into San Tomas, I was behind Lesnar, you know, and, obviously, he was, he was down from his race and, and I was leading my race. So I was like, You know what I want to, I want to try and get him and I was on his bumper horn, Push to Pass everything and he bolted. So I was like, I was like, as much as I want to run them down. I'm like, it's the last thing I should do. But I ended up catching back up to him. He went off on a vine. I went on another one and passed him. So when I did that, it was like, Okay, that's pretty cool. That's a mason Ford truck truck that I just passed. So that obviously filled me up. And you know, there's just little stuff like that that obviously kind of keeps you going and having a good day obviously made a lot. So those little victories dude, like it's so funny like the mentality of a racer, right, Adam because like those little things, they're like, Yeah, dude, let's go out literally a little motivation to kind of you know, refill the refill that tank and get you through the petrol on like, Alright, we gotta get Blake, Wilkie and Harrison we saw on here that we're gonna talk more about some clarity TVs. But So Ethan, how has it been being in the passenger seat compared to the driver's seat? It's been different. I'd only done it a couple of times before racing with Brock. And so the biggest thing for me that like I had to learn was pre running. For all like the best of the desert races stuff, we don't really get to do much pre running, or we don't get do any prewriting at that. And so it's kind of nice to be able to show up a week early and get notes in and really get your homework done before the race starts. Yeah, it really is. And that's a whole team thing, right? Like the whole teamwork makes the dream work. Because all of you come together and put together good notes and you put together a good car and you can exchange information. Like every single person on the team can grow and learn more and more and more every single time that you guys go out. It's pretty it's pretty awesome. All right, so we got to wind it down. Brock, let's start with you. Then we'll go to eat and then we'll go to Adam. Just throw a shout out to the people that helped you and maybe just tell us a little bit about where you haven't thank. Yeah, I mean, obviously you got to give up to Ethan for, for keeping me going all day. Players razor for everything they do. I mean, these cars are They're insane. And going back to the times and you're surprised that they're finishing so early is just where these cars are going. This is crazy for, for the everyday consumer, the whole shop, the whole SCI group, all the mechanics, you know, they've worked their butts off, especially Johnny, and everyone that supports us. I mean, there's there's a huge list of, of sponsors that support us. And obviously we couldn't do without them. Yeah, I agree with that. Speaking to Johnny, that's really cool that you mentioned him too, because he's been doing a killer job. But one of the things that I want to talk about is Johnny snare always looks so good. He has permanent Joe, it doesn't come out. It's up in the morning, and it's just done. Yeah, wakes up and it's just beautiful. Alright, even your turn buddy really brought forgive me this opportunity. Craig Scanlon and Travis Clark for let me come on to the team and help out and then Ryan and Adam and all the crew guys over there for doing what they do and for putting in the time and the shop and for logistics. So that way we can have our smooth races that were able to add it was great, and we definitely wouldn't have been able to win without all of them. Did I agree? 100%. All right, Adam. I just gotta thank Brock and Ethan for driver looking with race and, and getting that this win, you know, we provided them a car that was capable of winning, and they brought across the line. So a lot of hard work there. And then all the all the support from Polaris, I mean, it's great, the players have stepped up and made this program possible and is really, you know, brought an OEM back into the sport and is wanting to compete at this level. And then finally, just all the volunteers that come down and provide us with Chase support and pit support, you know, we wouldn't be able to do any of this without. And then it just goes to show all the hard work. Right. So, victory number one with the boss Greg Scanlon at San Felipe and Max, Eddie, and then victory number two, so two pro its pro unlimited UTV I think is what it's called to pro unlimited UTV win so far. And score right now open. Yeah. UTV Pro. Super cool, man. All right. Thanks, boys. Really appreciate it. We will talk to you guys soon. Thank you adulation. Make sure you guys Alright, so we're gonna get Blake Wilkie and Harrison waists on real quick and then talk to them a little bit about their journey in the their Polaris as well. Let's see here. Actually, I want to talk about something as we wait to get those guys on. I want to talk about like, steal the Yeah, pro UTV open. Thanks, Nelson. It's just so wild to me to understand the pace that all these drivers are going these days. You're going let's get Harrison on. These cars can go so fast. I've said it before on the show. I took a stock photo art and went and pre ran at the California 300 race in Barstow and we're doing at three miles an hour down some single track and a stock car. It was insane how fast the pace was that we could go. Alright, hold on a sec. Arison. Let's see, actually we'll wait for Blake to come on, Harrison. What's up, dude? What's up, buddy? How are you? Good, man. Hey, so I kind of want to say that you're new to desert racing. I mean, you've been around it a long time. But get your driving shoes on. It's pretty cool to see man and the pro ours giving you a platform to get out there and do it too. Yeah, it's the desert stuff is all very familiar to me. I've been going to the desert my whole life. But the racing scene is all fresh and new. I've kind of begin comfortable pretty quick with it. But yeah, it's been it's been an experience and this Baja race thought back pretty hard. So well. Well, oh, several scenes had a primary clutch explode at mile 137. That took an hour to change with my co driver Spencer. And then we're six miles from handing the car off to Blake and ran out of gas. And then Blake got the car, he had a good run all the way up to bow miles 348 on the coast right in the bottom corner, and the wheel lugs backed off and the drivers rear and took out the wheel took out the rotor. So the pit three guys had a spare hub that I gave them. So they went over there took two hours to straighten it all up, pinch, pinch the brake line off and get going again. And then Blake made it another 22 miles before the upper ball joint backed out and pulled out alarm and that ended it at about 230 in the morning. Do you guys get like I mean, it's just a learning curve, right? Like there's so many little things that happen like we're just talking about the players factory guys. Like there's so many little things that happen during a race that it's unexpected. You just have to be updating and changing your strategy and keep going and moving forward like and when you have I don't want to say failure is not the right word. But when you have learning experiences like what you guys had, you have adjustments that you can make to get better the next racer. Yeah, it's I mean, it's kinda like writing it down in your notes in your phone and learning off of it, maybe checking the wheel lugs that each pit, you know, could be a better thing for the future and, and having the newer updated clutch players came out with and, and luckily, I'm getting the whole X travel front end next week. So that should eliminate a lot of front end stuff. And yeah, just keep progressing up, you know, it's a stack sealed, having 20 cars in that class down there is crazy. And every car is built to hell. And just jumping in with my seat trying to get my feet wet is a big, big thing. So definitely learning off every single race so far, unfortunately, or zero and four in this car so far. But I mean, every time you're getting better at navigating with the CO driver and getting a faster pace, you know, just trying to learn every moment of the way so that all of a sudden we'll get a win. What are some of the things that you guys have learned or you've learned since you will kind of newbie added so to speak. I think my driving as improved a lot just with having the pace being way higher, and having to learn when to push when to back off. And the Baja race kind of taught me to just chill more, which I'm not super used to with any of this yet. And just trying to back off and be able to know that I have to get the car to the next person. Because I haven't had to do that yet in any other racing. Other than that learning the navigation stuff, I've never had to have someone in my ear talk to me the whole time telling me where to go what to do and when to hit the brakes when to chill out when to get faster. So that's also been a different change of pace for me. But we've been getting a lot better and better per race with the words and getting it out faster and me trying to listen to it when I can. Yeah, it's kind of crazy though, like because we were just talking with Bryce Menzies about it. Like, I've noticed that I as I get older and I'm addicted to progress, right. And I think it was bred from racing like you always want to get better and better. Right. Like I feel like you're saying the kind of the same thing. Yeah, definitely. I hope that each race kind of what I'm seeing with Navigator wise Spencer's been getting better with his words, trying to get comfortable with saying certain stuff that I want to hear from him. And he was on it really good. We had really good notes, or works, because we did not go down there and pre run at all. Yeah, trying to get better with the navigation stuff because I feel like my driving skill is there. But me having to list someone else is definitely a learning progress on its own. Yeah, totally Blake Wilkie what's up? Dude, it's kind of crazy. I was thinking about it. Like, this morning. Actually. We're used to seeing you in the class. 11 like a trophy bug. I don't know if you can still hear us, Blake, but we're talking about you. Is dude it's systems bogging out. Yeah. TF sucky Wi Fi at the shop. Harrison. It's, there's no Wi Fi it's shop. Like we're gonna have to have you go outside and then get a cell phone service up. It's kind of crazy though, like seeing Blake get in all these different vehicles was he like nervous or anything driving, not his own rig. And then obviously a player now. He's so comfortable in anything he puts his mind to. The whole getting him in the car was something that was planned when I finished the car. And as I was building it, we kind of talked about one or two races this year to kind of share the duties with it. I don't really trust anyone driving. Oh, it's been with him. Yeah. And we're really good friends. We're kind of all in this together. All of our partners are the same. So being able to have him behind the wheel knowing that well, if we mess the car up, we could both fix it together. And yeah, it's just it's definitely different scene and racing UTV. I'm used to him in the in the bugs all the time, but he's comfortable no matter what. So it was a good fit for sure. Yeah, it's kind of cool, though. And I'm like I love seeing that people could dislike see in air quotes drive anything. It's pretty bad. Yeah. He got in the car and I could just tell pretty quickly he was comfortable and even when he got out at the end of the night, he was like, Dude, the shocks are unbelievable, because you know, we have four pro ours total. And mine. This one's the most done up one and just hearing him talk about the things that he liked most about the car and how it handled and how drove was definitely rad to see dude, it's cool Blake Wilkie? What's up? We're back man. Technical difficulties, brother. It's all good. Sometimes the cell phones just give us so much shit. Hey, so I was gonna say like, we're used to seeing you in a Volkswagen rat class 11 And a trophy buck. Now you're going into a player's razor and Harris and I were just like, dude, the guy can drive whatever. I mean, they are very forgiving. And I mean, I never even actually i The only thing I did before the race was sit in it make sure the belts were all comfortable and learn the car a little bit more than what we've done at the shop and do it. I mean, I have a pro are so I couldn't imagine it would have been a whole lot different but they weren't good. Harry's got that thing dialed pretty, pretty solid minus the ball joints. Yeah, minus some upgrades that you guys learned from? What's the like, let's just say I wanted to get get into pro R and go race like a Baja 500 What did you guys done to your car? Because it's, uh, I don't want to say it's pretty stock because it's got some upgrades on it, but it is close. Yeah, I mean, Harry knows all about it. I mean, I do as well. But I mean, you could put a pyro tech fuel cell under the seats, throw good seats in it, throw a cage on it with some door bars, which LS K is offering for the pro RS where it's a race slash play door. So you can essentially take to Allen's out and the door will swing open like a factory door, or put the Allens in and it makes it rigid. I mean, they make a bolt on spare tire mount. And that's pretty much all you need. I mean, put the heavy duty ball joints on and on it. And if you're not going full kill race pace, then it should. It should live, but we're pushing to run with the big dog. Yeah, I mean, dude, it's it's the and we're just talking about that the pace is insane. Fast, like, well, actually. So Eric, how did you feel running that pace? And then I'm gonna ask Blake kind of a different question. Ask two answers. One answer is it's it it ASpace class, the cars are very capable. They could go through anything you teach, these can go through just a little bit slower, basically. And you don't have the big tire. But the pace is huge. But is little not as fast as the trophy truck because I had a 6100 truck pull out in front of me on a trail that met together. And that guy was gone. I never saw him again, ever. So it is still a slower pace and the TTS but I mean, it's a move. It's wild when you're in race. Yeah, it is wild. And then so Blake, you're on the other end of the spectrum, right? Like a class 11. I'm not gonna say it's slow, but it's one of the slower classes and then you got the TT, but like, both of those are all the way at the other end of the spectrum, right. And then you got a pro our UTV platform that's kind of right in the middle. What did you feel like the pace was because again, like I thought the race pace, this race was way faster than it was last year. Oh, for sure. Hands down. And I mean, this track was brutal. You ask anybody that ran this course. And this course was not a friendly course by all means. But the pace Yeah, dude, everybody just seemed super antsy. Like, even in the big dog classes. I mean, let's get how many of the top tier dudes had pretty big issues that set them back pretty far. I mean, most of them battle through it, because they're top tier teams. But yeah, dude, it was just, I think, especially in the pro art class, the 1800 class. I feel like with the factory guys, and then the other dudes that are either, you know, still sponsored by players, and everybody has something to prove. They want to get that top spot. I mean, that's racing. And sometimes it pays off to be conservative, but I mean, rock Hager one, I believe. Yeah. And he didn't have any issues all day. So I mean, it shows that if you're not running that pace, there's someone that's going to have a flawless day to where you have to run that pace to win. Yeah, because because that uh you know, 18 cars or whatever it was, somebody's going to have probably close to flawless day and if they're close to that pace and they have zero issues they're going to be they're going to be in that tough spot that's a good point to bring up so we just actually talked with rock and Ethan and Adam Arsenal I'll players right before you guys and they were telling us that I guess it is a perfect day so to speak, right and desert racing but they had a bunch of different logistical things that happen like they had to pit earlier the BFG pit they had to swap some stuff out. They did a miss fuel like a bunch of different little things that happen right but you guys like in desert racing? Every single team has to deal with this right? You're on the fly. You're switching what you got to do and you gotta have all of these things happen. You guys have I'm not gonna call it like a skeleton crew but a limited amount of resources and you still go out there and you can still perform Harrison. That's gonna feel pretty badass. Yeah, it's it's rad for sure. We luckily had a group of people. Man well down there who works on Blake's class LEM car, he lives. So we had him and his other boys and his son down there. And we only brought one other person with us from up here to help out so we We're pretty limited on it. But I mean, we kind of went into this with, we're not trying to get first place or second or third, we just want to finish it. So having less crew, you know, it's we still get the job done. And even with all the failures, we had everyone still gathered up together to handle the situation and get the car back on the road each time. So it works. It makes me feel so good when you're racing down there. It's really Moreau asked how you guys finished Blake. I broke a ball joint in like a section by the beach where I didn't deserve it or nothing. I think it just had. It had small whips and stuff. There was no raw impacts or nothing. I think it just it the ball joint threads like the clip on the top of the RCV ball joint popped out and then unthreaded the top of the ball joint out, which sucked. But when that happened, I had lent it pretty slow for about five minutes on course and just added up the time and I was like, Dude, it's 230 in the morning right now. I just got done taking a dirt nap next to a fire on the coast of Baja, for like almost an hour while we like waiting for the drain brothers to bring us a rear hub. The rear hub got screwed up. But yeah, so I was like 230 time we gotta go almost 100 Miles like, papi. I think we're done here. Because if we're dealing 20 miles an hour, and we got to go, say 80 miles, that's another four hours. And that's on course. So like we're right there. Pass call on that. So we peeled off and took the highway back to Encina peeled off and then took a connecting highway to the one that took the one back to incident audit and every five minutes that thing would get a gnarly death wobble at about 30 miles an hour because I didn't want to push it and then I'd have to like either stab the brakes, or sometimes a little blip of the throttle would get it to like the tire to stay straight. But man it was. It was an eventual spot. Yeah, it sounds cool, though. Like Baja is always an adventure. Right. Jeffrey Ricker actually said, thanks for all your help at kilometer 77 Two. That was my first time ever down in Mexico like that first time doing a Baja race and just seeing the atmosphere and the amount of people that love the sport was just unbelievable. And just us doing it. I mean, I was sitting at 440 Waiting for Blake not knowing what's going on with the car for about four hours free. Just sitting there in the middle of Mexico with no phone service. just stoked to be down there. And yes, it's cool. Dude, it that vibe. Like I'm glad you brought that up Harrison because the vibe never goes away. Like that's always just in you after you go down there for one race like it just like inbred in you for the rest of your life. It's so cool that you got to experience that. But sassily Unbelievable. Yeah, for sure. All right, so let's see here. So basically, you guys helped a few people Blake out of course. Chris and Matt long i hardwired her fans at like mile, I want to say miles seven, year seven, seven or something like that. We're right there where the highway met and you peeled off and made a left. She came in and had a fan that wasn't working and there was a couple of dudes there and she said that the car was overheating so they have a minimal crew they had a couple people there and you fuel and whatnot. But Wayne came in first and then we fueled him up and and then Kristen came in and said she was overheating. So I hardwired her fan and she ended up you know getting a podium. So that was pretty cool. And then Brandon Sims at mile 212 where it crosses the highway at like we're BFG pit two was he came in and read before he came in I was just going to help do a look over I'm in flip flops and shirtless in shorts like you know because I knew Harry had some time before he came in so I'm just chilling and next thing you know over the radio he says hey, we need a rear axle driver side rear axle so I was like shit well that my box of tools because I know that I have that the king of hammers bag and then my other heart chests that has everything in it. So I got that down. Oh shit. And yeah freakin change an axle form. Flip flops and no shirt deities cruise and that's the Baja for you though, dude. And yeah, well, first of all, like that's sick that you did that because that's like the true class act. And that's like the truce. Why don't know, mantra of desert racing right is everybody. Give it Everybody have the best chance to cross the finish line? Yeah, and they're both competitors in the same class but it's like dude, these are the homies and I know what everybody puts into it so if there's something that I can do to help anyone man I mean competitor or not it's it's nice to be able to yeah see them finish well and have have a small part of that you know, in the most crucial time given all the race course. I had a tie rod Haim go out. And duck and overboard, Thanks, Mark. But we got a whole lot of grinding going with the air tools over there. Shit Harrison, you got cut off by the power tools, buddy. Don't get at WD air air tie rod in the bottom of his chassis. So pull it out of his car and fix my car. So do Yeah, just sharing the love down there is the way to do it. It's so true, you know, Montreux ba Blake I know you got to get back to work and kind of get things going with all this stuff that you have going what give us a Harrison actually you go first tell us who you want to thank and just you know tell us what your plans are for the next race. Definitely gonna sink X comp tires they stepped up really big help get us both on their race and for our small crew for help now with every which way possible to get us handled down there and taken care of and just the all my friends and family support this I mean, all program better better. And with that. Do I be on thankful for it. Our next plan would be think me and Blake are going to the Glen Hill Amour race and we're gonna have some fun, and that's different change of pace we could kind of back off the craziness and just enjoy the time and have fun motocross track and then I think AB ba four or the California 300 and Bazer so that's that's let's come and do that's gonna be sweet. Be more Do you have any questions for Blake Wilkie to wind her down? Here? I'm ready for blade to drop the heat. And what do you I know I'd have some way of waiting for this video. Good job dude. Oh a result three dude, it's gonna be sick. I know. I'm still bummed I didn't make it man. I'm so sorry. Oh, you missed out on a good time. You know? We weren't gonna be I know I'm gonna be mad and jealous and yeah. Oh, we'll be more salt three sounds like it'd be pretty sick. All right, one last question for you boys Blake. How many tacos were eaten in Mexico Well, I don't know if you'd be my I got there and I have 14 right away so if you know if you got me beat every style a taco freakin vary petstore carne chicken cabeza like you name it the I like no you weren't part of the cabeza I was that dude it is unique but it is very very very tasty dude. Yeah, I tried it once and I wasn't a huge fan but yeah, I was sitting next to be more and I was like looking over him like how many tacos are gonna show up? Ever for I tried to be not be a fat kid. I go into I go down there it's full on did that can restriction lift go on new country different country getting everyone and thanks to Harrison I appreciate it. Thanks, blade. Yeah, good job, boys. Thanks for having me. Alright, we'll see you guys later. All right, so be more there was a lot of fun to had down there you and I spent a lot man do so much to unpack do it really is soon. Right? Like I want to talk about because I'm gonna we're going to talk about like the Starlink of some of the broadcasting and stuff. But I want to talk about like the good times of Baja. Right. Like, that's one of the main reasons we all do this is because we all get to share love and time with our bar families. And you got to do that with Hearst, for sure. You know, I'm seeing you know, obviously from a new side with the perspective obviously, I mean, we I've worked with a lot of different teams very fortunate to work with obviously some of the top tier teams that you know go you know between you know, Menzies and now herps and you know, I always I still help her Menzies sell to but now I'm actually being like a caterer and so I am terrible herbs motorsports. So you know, it's been cool to see kind of different side of it to be like, you know how they do it. They I mean, they go all out obviously, right? But you know, everything's still the same as far as like the love and the passion. And when you're down there and you know the people and everyone it doesn't matter. Like you could be the top Trophy Truck team or you could be the guy who raised his quad right and in every one still has love for each other and there's all Hey, if you need some, you know, everyone helps each other, you know, perps especially like, you know, the worst people, I've seen people where they're coming over, you know, in a pinch to need something and they just hand it out, right, like parts, whatever it is. Yep. So, you know, it's, it's been, it's been fun to study and kind of see that side of it, you know, and, and I love it man. And it's I think it's like for, you know, for us are the same, very much the same, because we talked about, right, like, we're so passionate driven about it. And like, we're so willing to kind of invest all of our time. You know, because we, we want to, we want this to grow, we want it to, we know when it can be right. And forever racing is just so sick. The biggest problem is, is that people don't know, right? Like, the only people that know are the people that are that have seen it up close, right, like, and so obviously like me and you, man, we're live very much how can we mass produce? How can we get everyone to see that's not in this demographic? You know, that, that? We know they're gonna like it, we know they're gonna love it. It's a whole different perspective. Right? So the biggest thing and you know, as it's trying to get this thing for the world to see, dude, I can't wait till we can walk into Walmart and say, Did you see the off road race that people say? Yeah, I'm gonna go through some of these comments. Emily. Hi, how are you? Jason Montana said, where we snuggle buddies. Eight. Luckily, we got our own beds. Yeah, differently. I tried. You know, sorry, Jason. I'm part of the aerial department. So I will require to have all room. Back to Baja. It's, yeah. So it is cool to see though, right. And then so one of the things that I want to talk about a little bit is the, the Starlink stuff is working really cool. Because we can transmit data, we can do live video and all this stuff. Like we have computer networks on it. Freakin trophy truck now, like that blows my mind. I mean, just think of it on the helicopter side to just seeing actually take take the lives inside, right, and I'm seeing this, I'm seeing this, obviously, because I'm in the backseat, but I see, I see the time split side, I see the date, you know, just having the data. So, so knowing what's going on at all times. And being able to have like, you never realized how much how how important it is. And so you don't have it, right. And so, so now, you know, we have this, this way to where we can see, I mean, I have live tracking, I can have, you know, I'm doing a photo of you. You know, we have live tracking, we have, you know, telemetry, we have withdrawal, you know, we have like kind of know it, we're in the know, of all the things and so that in itself is literally it, you know, and then you had the video aspects of it, now you're kind of getting that person, you know, a kind of a feel what's going on, and they can see the what's happening in almost real time. And, and you know, that that's what people want. That's how you get people that can't you know, that, that maybe not having an understanding of it to get an understanding, there's less money because like, oh, the cat, it's funny, because like, I didn't realize how, how the video helps. But all the team members were like, Yeah, we watch it all the time. Ya know, and that's the thing, and it's getting better, right? When we tried to, you know, years ago, you know, the, wasn't there, right? Like, the idea. And all the Starlink stuff is happening very fast. Right? And you I mean, me and you have talked about it's like, you know, you get you develop something you tested, you tested, you're happy, you're happy and oh my god, now there's another method of doing it. So streamline, and you know, how we've talked about trying to, you know, dumb it down to where, essentially, you know, it's hard to, it's hard to I mean, not to say that we're smarter than everybody else, we just have a better understanding of how things work. Right. And so Robert gene side, it's how can we make this work so just some regular person can put it in their car. So you know, again, we Yeah, plug and play, we want the trophy truck, guys, we want that. But like you want we want the guy that is in his you know, his razor or his 10 card, that may not have the most technical experience or wherever it is that we want them to say hey, or hand this to them, and have a method of saying here, here you go, this works. And so actually, Greg Kelly just logged on and said, You guys are taking my sport to the next level. Thank you the more Yeah, like that's exactly the person that I think would benefit from it. Right? They put a network on their car, then all of a sudden they can show grandma and grandpa what they're done on the weekend sitting in the seat and that's and that how how crazy is that for that and that's exactly where they're like having grandma and grandpa not being able to be there but be there. And you know that that's the thing and and I you know we can roll this whole conversation into a freakin whole thing. But it's obviously getting, you know, getting the support and the understanding of the promoters and how to, you know, let's all work together. Because obviously it helps everyone build all this and when we get involved in obviously marketing comes in and You have tight, you know, you have these huge sponsors, and then you know all that. So, you know, I see it from from 20 directions, obviously, from my experience from, you know, somewhat Well, I wouldn't say I have a ton of and marketing experience, but making, you know, taking people's money, making something out of it, and then providing or giving it to sponsors and then all that stuff. So, yeah, John Hopkins just chimed in. And this is actually a good little topic to talk about. So it's not important until it is important than it really is right? Like, but people haven't seen it yet. That's the that's the really crazy thing, right? And then all of a sudden, you give it to him, and it's like, Oh, my God, this is so badass, don't take it away. Like you gotta keep like, moving forward, like, I want it more and more. And like one of the cool things that you and I just figured out, like after the races, like we just went looked at the stats, and today, like 65,000 people watched it on Saturday. Like, that's blows my mind, like, unique eyeballs. That's what's awesome, right? Oh, so that's the biggest thing. And now, you know, how do we like how do we go out? How do we I mean, it's, it's gonna grow, right? And now how do we push it out to the people that don't know about it? Right? And, and because by then, then we're gonna start, really, and I think we're gonna really get traction. And I know what's cool about it is live work. We're making leaps and bounds every single time we're trying this, right? I mean, you especially like bouncing ideas, like, how can we do this? How can we do this right? And all these unknowns? And then, you know, obviously, we're having a I wouldn't, I mean, I'm gonna say it's an inconvenience, we're gonna convincing inconvenience, inconvenience inconveniencing the prep guys, and having to add all this equipment, which, I mean, again, it's getting better, it's coming down, like we're gonna eventually, you know, the stuff that you're developing, it's gonna make it to where it's just very simple. Yeah, but the same thing happened with like, onboard Japs, or with like, Tai Lopez. All these add on, right? Like, it's a trophy truck is an insane piece of equipment no matter how it is. So we kind of got to take it with a grain of salt, right? We're still elevating, we're still giving more bone. We're ahead. We're ahead of the curve. And that's the thing, right? We're and, and that's why, you know, yes, we'll get frustrated. And you know, you don't mean I'm like, you know, in the moment, but I have to, I have to dial it back and realize what we are ahead of the curve in and what we're doing. You know, again, we're not saying we're the first to do it. But I would say that we've had a very good spot of understanding way making it work more efficiently and more uptime and more, you know, I mean, this races, I mean, 500, for instance, like dude, art. I mean, the issues we had at the 250 were not the issues, we had this right. Yeah. So quite a bit better. Yeah. And so, you know, now let's just add, add, add, what can we do better? What, Where can we fill this work? You know, you know, we're like, do we, how can we tell a story? How can we, you know, how do we involve, you know, more drivers with this? And that, you know, and, and I think we're setting a precedent, at least because, you know, obviously, we're bar signals they can go to for like this last phrase, they go to score and scores using it for their stuff. And, you know, and, and so, yeah, trophy. Oh, actually just said kind of the same thing. Like, how do you juggle all these different feeds? Honestly, I think it's going to be up to the user. And I think what like, it's kind of like Apple and Android, like, you have to like, negotiate it to the way that you want to consume information, right, or what you want to view, some people may not be very adept to seeing an in car camera and might upset them, it might be too much juggling around, I mean, we want to see some people and so it's just whatever you really want. But the bad thing about it is, is like what be more said, there's a lot of room for growth, like pretty soon we're going to have it so you can click on it, and you can watch whatever camera you want to watch. So you can pick like, all of those things are going to be amazing. And that's going to be the game changer part when you can physically have control of you know, essentially the software and pick what you want, right and it can totally be done. It's just a matter of you know, it's a matter of just right doing it at this point. I mean, I don't think that's the coming up point when you kind of figure out like Hey, what is your ultimate goal for instance, like you know, like like not everyone's gonna watch like for instance terrible hours more sports obviously was what we've been doing not everyone's going to want to watch that maybe they're going to want to watch score and score is going to sprinkle in some of our stuff and whoever else right and but what's nice is the people that don't like this it goes to the same thing is there needs to be it's like no one who not one wants to watch score but maybe want to someone wants to watch it you know are terrible hurts and yeah, and you know, like I mean everyone has as a thing Oh, I like this angle here. I like this angle here and and what we tried to do is not make it we're done or you know all the same and everything looked the same and tried to switch it up. Yeah, exactly trophy bro saying the same thing and I got some to add on to that. He said like there needs to be an aggregate or a nice interface. We'll do. We've already got a lot of that complete. I think we're about 60 70% Done with the interface. So we just still got a little bit more to do. The cool part about it is though, is like, I love that we're growing it. But honestly, I still want to see inside of a class 11 Dude, like, I want to put some cameras in those B's. Yeah, that'd be violent. That actually, that's a really good idea. And I mean, again, and that's the thing, like, you know, it's where this is, where's this gonna go? Like how, you know, I look at what the, you know, well, we know what you know, for score, for instance, like, you know, they're trying to do this. But I think that, you know, people are gonna want to make the investment, they're gonna want to have something that they can put in their hands, essentially, you know, like, we're not not like, what are you said, they want some control, where it's, uh, hey, you know, I want to put this here, so my family can watch it. And, and so I think, you know, until they kind of get that figured out, and where that, you know, where the deal is there, it's gonna be kind of hard for, you know, for them to keep, you know, getting people, I mean, the thought of them having 100 feeds at once and be able to do that, that is, honestly my dream for this. Because when we get that point, then we're gonna really, really, you know, have something, it's gonna be next level, right? And then, like, all designs is a lot more live pit action. Yep. Like, we were able to do that. Like, you know, what's crazy, is I was looking at, like the user count, like on YouTube, when we were doing the live action for herbs. And we had three trucks come in, like within a 15 minute period, or whatever. The user count went up, like 100 150 people that were watching just when it was coming through the pit. So like, what those guys just said, that's totally crucial. Like, we need to be more of that. Oh, and that's what like, let us know if people don't know too is like you literally access to some of the pit action right? US you sent a link or download an app, which I was using the star link in the helicopter, download the app, put the info, and then boom, my phone is now a live camera. Right? So you know, that's what people realize, like you can kind of you can do this. And it doesn't have to be some crazy expensive production. You just need to have like, this guy's gonna go your best friend. Yeah, Daisy was saying to that filming always got more in the pits. And it did. Like recap videos and stuff. I agree. You know, what's cool, too, is like not to get off subject cuz we're talking about Baja 500. But we actually had satellite dishes in the ocean Cup, which is offshore boat racing this weekend, too. But we got to see a whole bunch of the behind the scenes actually, some offshore boats, like that was sick, dude. I've never even seen an offshore boat race. And I was like, Holy crap, these dudes aren't Naria Yeah, I mean, it's, and that's the thing you people want to be they want to be like, they've seen what kind of NASCAR has done and Formula One. And you know, and like, like, it can be that now, obviously, we are facing a huge, like, the connectivity side of it. You know, obviously, like, we're, we're making these things do what they're essentially not, not that they're not supposed to do it that you like, I mean, the fact that we can put a Starlink on the roof of a truck and beat it to shit. And it doesn't. Like it works. You know, and, and yes, there's some limitations. And we know that but we have lost a couple. We actually found one, we found one. Yeah. But, you know, it's, it's what it's what we need to keep progressing. And I think it's only gonna get better, like it really is it's only gonna get better. And eventually we're gonna you know, the right person and the right meeting is going to happen. And then you know, those limitations will go away and then honestly, it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy because then you know, the the nice thing about what the you know, the harps feed obviously is like hey, you know at least there's there's three vehicles and then if there's a drop out you can switch and then obviously with the helicopter with the helicopter, we're the best that ever did I turned up your bit rates and look at so it's like, you know, the download speeds we were getting and upload those you know, it's just it's impressive. And so you know, I think I don't know man it kind of blows my mind I honestly the fact that that even even works all right well you saw Starling talk what was your favorite part about being down there? Tacos oh my god we didn't get to eat it enough times cuz we're so busy but dude that eltra LuLaRoe Lindsey geysers favorite spot just came in so clutch Yeah, that was that was that's it for I can't believe it's the first time I mean that place I mean, I haven't but I feel it's first time if I remembered it that places Let's see your whole design. So the pit one was awesome for herbs. We pitted both spec trucks within 30 seconds of each other. Yeah, like and to be able to capture that like even when I was sitting there like being part of the broadcast team. Like I was just like amazed. I was like, Dude, this is so cool to watch like I'm having a great time watching this myself like it was bitchin yeah yeah, it's it's funny because we didn't know like, obviously when we that's when when you hook the phone up and I was like, hey, we want you came through McCauley. Holy shit, the most trucks coming in, you know and be like see and, you know, obviously we had a You know, we had the, again, it's not perfect, we have that issue with the one Starlink. I mean, you're just like, how can we reset this thing while they're in race mode? And like ask them you know, the bride should be this, this, this is the shit we're gonna learn and we're gonna figure out like there's, you know, again, it's only trial and error. We're gonna Emily's trying to get in the helicopter and eat tacos next time. Oh, date daisies like, yeah, Paris was the best part of the trip. Oh, we didn't go. No, no, you can't count us in that we got to go to eltra Lera. Brian had 69 Tacos. You need their antibiotics at that place. We gotta get the dirt bike guys on dude, I appreciate everything that you did, obviously, down there. I think it was awesome to be able to see. And now today we're up to 85,000 people or 82,000 people that have watched it. So good job. And I keep we're gonna keep pushing it, dude, I'm stoked, man that and like I said, I'm so very thankful that herps is, you know, have trusted me us like and the investment and you know, to try this, they see the bigger picture. And that's, that's what we need. You know, it's, they understand the big picture of it. And they trust that, you know, some two knuckleheads are trying to spearhead some crazy shit that happened. So it's awesome, though. I love it, dude. All right. Well, thanks, Dan. I appreciate it. Appreciate it. I'll talk. I'll talk to you soon. Laters. Bye. Alright, so let's get Conradie on Matt combs and Matt Eddie. Go ahead and feel free to join whenever you guys want to hear. Oh, there's Matt. Connor wants to jump on. And Matthew combs he wants you to jump on to Hall. Thanks very much, dude. Appreciate it. Let's see. Oh, wait for there you go, man. What's up? Are you did pretty good. Did you get the 9x in the background? I do. Yeah. Oh, she cleaned up. No, no, we haven't got that far yet. Oh, I still got a little bit of Baja love on her, huh? Yep. Just a little bit. All right. So we'll wait for Connor and for Matthew to jump on as well. I gotta say the first thing that I wanted to say was moto in Baja is gnarly. Like, and I mean gnarly in every single aspect of that word. It's a whole nother animal, man. You know, it's super gnarly. If you don't you don't have a cage around you to protect you. And you know, if you hit the ground, a little softball sized rock man could take you out and and injure Baja. And you know, potentially. Yeah, do exactly. Connor, who else is supposed to join us? Because I see a couple people in here, Bryce. Nope. All right. Yeah, I don't see him. Yeah. So we'll wait till he joins. But yeah, Matt to continue on. What you're saying. Matthew come in the screen a little closer. Give your buddy Connor a hug. You guys just got second at the Baja 500 meet. Up So yeah, first of all, like I guess maybe I should do a re intro here. So we got Connor Eddie, Matthew combs and Matt Eddie. You guys did a killer job down there. It was so gnarly. You guys were ripping and you guys came home. Second. I know you guys wanted to win. But dude, that's a feat in his self. So Matt, give us a little bit of a background on what transpired to get you guys down there. So I got a call. Probably Actually, I didn't get a call I I told Connor Hey, Connor, that'd be cool. If we can put something together for the 500. His other team kind of backed out on him last minute. And you know, I know. He was kind of bummed. And he really wanted to ride to erase the 500 and and I opened my mouth and said, Hey, we should put a team together. And next thing I know, a few days later, a week later, I get a phone call. And you know this guy Seve a DP racing. Probably one of the most passionate guys to ever walk in Baja. I mean, he's been there a long time. And he's helped a lot of the guys out that that has multiple fans in Baja. And he gave me a phone call and said Hey, Matt, I heard you may be interested in racing. And I'm like, Well, yeah, no, you know, it's been a long time since I've raced down there. And you know, I've been riding a little bit here in the States racing, but not in Baja. And it's been about seven years but 70 did all the legwork, got our pits goal and got some funding and stuff like that and all we needed was a bike basically and she's sitting right behind you did look at there. Yeah, I couldn't say no. You know, the offer was too good and the guys that Conor rounded up to ride it Matt combs and Bryce dad Ron you know solid guys. So I mean I had nothing but you know? Good to think about them and to say yes, yeah, exactly. Exactly and Bryce dude, you look and crispy you got the nice haga shirt on represent there. How was the race for you, but it was the funnest race I've ever had on there. Like literally just being that close with everyone. Even all the teams that the visuals on the way back and when we're waiting for that to cruising, like we're all having a good time. And like just all admire no close to this race plus, and super stoked that Conor and Matt got to be their first race down. I like that. That's like something very exciting. I mean, 26 races and I've never seen anything that close. Yeah, it is kind of cool. Right? And then I wanted to know, too, that both Matthew and Connor 17 years old, both from Barstow, Barstow boys, right. So it's pretty cool that you guys got to experience it with them. Right, Matt? Yeah, it was good. It was, it's a lot different than gonna go down there and figure everything out and just learn how ba works. And then turns out we did a pretty good and pulled it off. It was the gnarliest part of the whole race like well, actually, before we go in there, Matt, Eddie, why don't you tell us a little bit about the strategy? Like there's four different riders. So how do you I don't know, stagger? Where does everybody go? Like what mile markers and stuff? Okay, so this one was unique, because we had two guys that have very minimal time racing in Baja. So we had to be really strategic with where we set up Ryder sections at just because I know the consequences of Baja and putting people in the wrong spots. You know, well, like your brother just said, he just commented in rookies like he was making fun, but that's actually a really true statement. Like you have to protect the rookies, you do you do and you got to put them, not where they want to go. But where you think they would fit to be a good, good team player and to keep them safe as well. So it was a no brainer. You know, Bryce has been starting for quite a few teams, lately in Baja. And so we decided, Bryce was going to start and take it to kilometer 77 on the highway. And he we decided, you know, he's gonna ride another section later. So I got on the bike and took up a 30 miles to nuevo junction. So from kilometer, 77, there to nuevo junction, 30 miles, where we decided Matt combs, he, he races a lot here in the States. And he's a district 37 and national hare and Hound champions. So we thought that a good fit for em would probably be, you know, it's funny to say, but the most dangerous section in Baja, which is up over the summit all the way into Perregaux. It's super gnarly, you got to be on your toes. And, you know, we seen the consequences of that in pre running down there. So I think Matt knew how serious and how consequential that section could be. But in reality, it was probably the best fit for him. He's at Super gnarly, rough, you know, slow go and stuff, you know, until you get up to the summit. Yeah, and like, I think that's good that you guys already have experience. So maybe I should say that as well. So Matt, Max, all of you guys have quite a bit of experience that you can help the younger guys. I mean, there's 17 years old, they still got a lot of piss and vinegar, right? You got to calm them down. So it's like, you know, that experience and you can put them in a position where the team can excel and get better if you know what their qualifications are on course, to be able to excel at that segment of the course. Sure, sure. It's pretty crazy to see that. So Bryce, like, I mean, like, that's got to be a pretty good feeling, knowing all the experience and the new blood both have the same team. Yeah. The kids, they're not kids or young men, but they read like they're fast. Conor was bitterly I seen all the other videos everyone else go through all choppier throttle. You never let off the hammer. We posted one video today Connor was just I was like, if that back end steps out, there's gonna be some serious freaking consequences, right? I guess grandpa told him he was losing time and he's like, Oh, no, that's not often and so and then. Not you know, like, that's like, that's a heavy section like like not he was saying and but you know, he freaking handled it like he really did he put he kept with everyone past a bunch of people. I think he passed the most amount of people in one run out all of us, and he got us up into fifth. And at that point, I could be wrong though. It may have been that coming into summit got at a couple and then Mr. Ross, but you put me in a good spot on Fifth when he got back off the break. Like they did their job great. Like they hold out. Yeah, it's cool to see Connor what was some of the funniest parts for you or actually not before ask that question. What did you learn? Because you got a lot of pressure on your shoulders with all these guys. Yeah, basically, do you just learn to mean, not race 100% Race 80% and just get it to the next person pretty much at the end of the week, you know, and, dude, I don't know about that outlaw Vitaly just said that you were shifting basically into seventh gear. I mean, that's my that's my 80% You know, it's, it's, um, that's my normal. It's pretty crazy that did you have any sketchy moments or No, no, those? We all had flawless rides. Yeah, I mean, maybe except for my Uncle Matt the end? Because there's vehicles and stuff in oncoming traffic, but I had a flawless ride the whole time. I mean, I didn't really have any sketchy moments just come in to San Tomas. So I was dodging a few vehicles going like 70 on the dirt roads. But that's that's a that's known for down there. You got to expect that you know, it's so it's you're you're ready for that at all times around every corner around every round every rise. You know, I had a one of our fans just comment in and said Ask Connor what he learned about girls outside of Paris. They're dudes That's hilarious. For anybody that doesn't know what parrot heiress is down in Mexico. It's a gentleman's club but minus the gentleman. Yeah. Yeah. Next, Next subject. Yeah. So Matt combs what was some of the sketchiest parts of your portion of the race? Everything went good over the summer and went really good. And I had a close call the cow right after the summer, though. Yeah, right from buying the bush. I never even seen it. Never even nothing just walked right out. I mean, but other than that, everything else went smooth and did all my lines perch. I couldn't ask for a better right. Hey, so what do you have usually do or Bryce? Actually, you speak on this a little bit? Like, how far ahead do you have to look like so I grew up racing dirt bikes, but on tracks, right, like in motocross and doing all these things. And your vision doesn't have to go that far ahead. Because you're maybe doing, you know, like, a quarter of the speed that you guys are doing out in the desert, you do jumps and you can see the next corner, it's really easy to gauge where you're looking at, right? But I don't understand how you guys all three of you also get me off for it. You understand the vision and the depth that you have to look because you have to bring it in, you have to let it out and all these crazy things to gauge the speed that you guys are at that always blew my mind. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of it comes with knowing where you can do that through pre running. For me, if I see a lot of cattle in the area, when I'm three running, or even like wild horses are like flocks of sheep even, like, I'll know there's a potential around the blind corner or there could be a cow, you know, like, but at the same time a teammate from the 300x Bike last year, he David's off to hit a cow and it was on the side of the road. And he's cruising by, like 25 just he saw me checked up and jumped out on. So really like animals are the biggest spirit for motorcycle racer down there is it doesn't matter how good you are. We've seen unfortunately. And yeah. All right, it's just really try to pay attention with pre running, knowing where they mostly, you know, what about if it's not animals, and it's just the speed like going through San Felipe oops, or like on the coastline where you're kind of just like drifting all over the place? Well, it depends on like those you know, softball sized boulders that have talked about beginning there's no like, it's up to how fast you can go through that section. So even for like headlights, like you need to be able to see as far as you can go. Like if you can go 50 miles an hour. Mark is you can see 100 feet, you can't go home. You can see 100 feet, like the faster you go the more you got to pick up your vision. You got to open up like you looking for little dust poops on side like roads that you know you cross over, or like rancher traffic or anything like that. But no, there's always just like that serious, like literally 40% unknown that a spectator is not going to be driving on the crossroad or there's a cow around this barn corner that you're going 60 around like yeah, I've been taken out by Jackrabbit before. No way. It'll take your front wheel right off the ground. Dude, I remember we used to go chasing jackrabbits to get better use out in the desert. So like when Bryce was talking about that, does it kind of get you to understand like some of the sections that you drove as well like, where you're gauging and where your vision was? wasn't the fate the pace that you guys were on that Eddie? Um, yeah, you know, just for your vision wise, I mean, you're constantly scanning up and down and, you know, you're you're looking, you know, a quarter mile out and then you look at in front of you, you're 100 yards and then a quarter mile out, you're constantly looking but yeah, you know, on a bike, everything seems like it comes at you so much, so much faster. You know, I mean, it's, you're, you're not like I said earlier, you're not protected by a cage. And one one little mistake, you know, is well injured day. So me, like Connor was saying earlier and you don't, right, you know, here in the States, you could ride even like the Heron hounds, for instance, like, you know, you could ride you know, 95 100% But down in Mexico, you have so many variables, your care that you know, your your medical care is a long ways away, or, you know, hours away. So, you mean, along with just getting a bite to the next guy, there's so much to think about when it comes to you know, riding dirt bike and racing a dirt bike in Mexico is, you know, all those variables. You want to stay safe. You know, obviously, you want to get the bike to the next guy. You got it or, or as close to you as you can. Yeah, it was always crazy. To me to think about I think I told Connor the same kind of thing. But like, when off road, dirt bike racing is way different than on being on track. But like so I've done professional Lucas Oil short course in the UTV, and I've done professional motocross and Supercross and stuff and I always thought to myself, like after racing dirt bikes and get a side by side, I feel like I could eat a turkey sandwich because it's like slow motion, right? But when it's different, like I've never driven a trophy truck, but I could assume that those speeds completely change your outlook on the way that you actually see it and I respect every single one of you, especially the young kids because they don't know as much as you experienced racers but like for being able to have that visual perception and the connectivity in your brain to be able to process information when you're going that fast and using all of your muscles so Connor it's probably gonna feel pretty crazy I mean, it's it's not it's not too crazy because coming up to the races, you know, you train really hard coming up to in basically train like how what you're going to how you're going to be in the race, you know, so it's kind of like, second hand nature for come race day. You know, it's kind of just like, you should it's kind of like a walk in the park because you train on stuff that's a lot more harder and brutal than then what you race you know, and, and even pre running, you know, you race you don't you pre run about 40 50% But you you hit all the stuff the same way that you're going to race it, you know, so it's like, coming race days, it's like a walk in the park. You know, it's like you don't really think about much you kind of just become one with the bike. And you know, it's it's it's just like a walk in the park. You can? tz like that muscle memory thing we were talking about earlier on the show. So Matthew combs like, what was some of the funnest parts that you got to do on course? Well, it was all all pretty rough. But the funnest learning, definitely the summit, because that's kind of what I'm good at. You know, we've been through the big rocks and the technical stuff. So that's where I have the most Yeah, plus, the summit is just so cool. When you cross over you're just like, Yes, like that, like the view is just insane. Yeah, you're way up there just checking it out the whole time and seeing how nice it is out there. Where did you guys go this time? Did you guys go through the forest to to get up there? Yeah, we went through the forest and all that good stuff. Yeah, dude, that's so cool. And then who got to ride by the beach? Did you say Bryce? Connor did the coast. Okay, so Connor, that was probably pretty epic it because you guys got there at what? Like, just after lunchtime. I got on the bike around nine around like 10 o'clock. So I was I was on the coast by I think around 11 Yeah, that pace was pretty fast then, huh? So Matt, Eddie, like, was the pace faster than what you're used to? Um, you know, it's been so long. But I think it was pretty normal. I thought. It's been so long. You know, it's been seven plus years since I've raced down there. So I think it was fairly normal, though. I mean, I, we average, you know, 40 I want to say 45 miles an hour's somewhere in there. And I think that's pretty par for the course, for that rough of a course. I feel like that's fast. I don't know. Like, I mean, it seems like that would be pretty fast. So what was the difference between what you last raced on compared to this? Was there a big difference or a different learning curve? Or it was just like riding a bike again? And me? Yeah. Actually, it was the same bike. It wasn't this bike. But it was the first generation Honda 450 Yes. So tell us a little bit about the bike to because that thing is sweet. Yes, this is my you know my bike. We sent it to I'm Bob at Bob young at San Diego power house two weeks before the race, or two and a half weeks before the race. It was it. It was pretty dialed in Aaron hounds on the bike since beginning of the year and a little bit last year, so the motor was fresh. I just had it rebuilt. So it was minimal prep, you know, just hatless is put a good Baja prep on this, you know, from the linkages up. And you know, he did a leak down test, check the valves and everything. So the motor was good. So he just did all the pivot points and the steering wheel. You know, we changed a couple of things on it, you know, for to better suit us and Bob do this. Recall, Bryce, you're probably stoked to get on that thing. Do that thing looks rad. has actually been a while since I wrote for 50x. Actually, last time I worked with the exes or DP racing. I believe it was for DP racing in 2012. So it's like, coming back to that after the new handling? Yeah, I think I started back with them like 2010 to 2012 with a J. Stewart. And that was kind of like he he mentored me a lot down there. He taught me a lot of stuff. I know that keeps me safe. And we're on the road or off the road. Like, yeah, the guy knows his stuff. But yeah, I was great. Bike was awesome. We had to figure out what we wanted to do with suspension. And it all came down to like the day before the race where we were tested on this little loop track on the beach, and we got to a point where it's like everybody's like, semi geared up like, Are you guys ready? Okay, we're kind of stressed the races tomorrow, we don't have a setting or like, Yeah, but then like, everybody got a turn on it. And when we figured it out. Thanks to Brad pace, he helped us out to some quicker changes and ideas. Because like, you know, we're all riding the same bike, you know, we'll have to be happy with it. And it's got to stay up for 500 miles because after two or three miles that's suspension stop. You know when it's gonna get softer that oil is getting thinner. The viscosity is just they have to lose weight. Well, dude, you got you guys got this suspension tuned up a little bit where Connor could just hold it matted. It's probably perfect for him out there. You know, it was just just soft enough to take those square edges out and yeah, it was it was pretty good for last night. We could definitely you know like Matt was saying we threw all this together literally three weeks before the race because Connor not columns and I did not have her I like we started out with family but unity you know, I think it was gonna be one way but last night I stepped in and helped us out and they step in and we'll let it happen and thanks we can't Yeah, we can't be up here for all it all came together but it can use easy like we didn't have any at seven just go 70 Just coming in clutch dude. Heck yeah. We don't even stress. So what was some of the best things about that bike? Connor because you and well and Matthew to both of you guys aren't used to racing a bike. That's that good. Are you? Yeah, I want to I race my dad's here back in the States. You're supposed to say no, you're supposed to say yeah, my uncle's bike is way better than my dad's off. Honda's are good, all good, but that not that the 9x bike was definitely one of the best bikes I've ever ridden. Just it's You can't beat it. You know, it's it's a proven bike down there. We had precision concept suspension on it, which is the best suspension for for ba I believe. And yeah, we couldn't have asked for a better bike. It was perfect. What was your favorite part of the race Connor. Wide open pull on the beach. That does sound pretty kick ass. And Matthew already said you're just going over the summer and it probably felt pretty good to be at the finish line off for you guys together and all your team and your family and friends alike. That's a good feeling. Yeah, it was good. It's it's the first one we did. So we got it done. And just keep going back now nothing else to deal with. Keep going back it went perfect. And up to the Resco perfect look, another guy did the progress. Right. Matt? Eddie, did you get the bug again, start coming back and feeling a little bit more real. You know, I started racing towards the end of last year in the states here, the hare and hounds and sprint and arrows and stuff like that. And then I've been having so much fun. I've been off the bike for a long time. And that definitely sparked the bug again, racing the hare and hounds and then going back to Mexico and getting so close to a win. You know, but not close enough, you know, and it as a racer, that's not good enough, you know, so you always want to go back and and I think that's what keeps us coming back is you're striving for that that when you know and that that you've had in the years past it's it did come back yes it is. That's So cool, man. So are you going to keep the team? Are you going to fire Connor and Matt? Um, yeah, just ends. Know, that are up and coming. Yeah, they're going to be around in Austin is going to be in addition to my Austin Austin and he's gonna be in addition to the 1000 team, hopefully. If not, he'll take my spot. So cool, man, we know Austin can drive a motorcycle or ride a motorcycle insanely good as well. So I can't wait to see it man. Like I was just pumped that you guys put together the program. I don't wanna say last minute, but with a little bit of last minute, you know, duties and you guys were able to go down there and get a good result being on the podium. I mean, just finishing is insane. But like being on the podium, that kind of makes you feel good, because there was a lot of hard work that went into it. There was a lot of team work. There was a lot of logistical stuff family stuff, just, I mean everything that goes into it, man, I'm proud of you guys. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, it's fun. And we have we have a ton of people that helped us out you know, last minute get ready for this and you know, just when it started when we started talking about this and everything just started coming together super easy. kind of knew it was going to you know, be a good day for us and good showing. Yeah, that's cool. And you did put together a pretty solid team did so you gotta be proud of that and everybody's hard work because everybody had the same goal and that was doing as best you can. So Alright, so let's start with MADI and then we'll go to columns and then Connor and Bryce, just throw a shout out to everybody. Man. Seve Seve is He's an animal and and he loves racing in Baja. I mean, he's out some of the great motorcycle racers out in Baja. Ben Cooley at Cooley construction helped us out a lot. Basically anything that we needed for the bike and you know, funds wise he was there for us. My dad and Matt Big Macs Eddie Maxine. You're the guy who started to bread Max and I like you know, like we are now is he was there chasing us. Chris Kincaid also was there the entire time. We're down there helping us out and chasing us around making a salad dishes. You know, prepping the bikes. We know why these kids are sleeping because they're tired from pre running. But yeah, it was all that Bryce. Shout out to sponsors and then Matt and Connor also. Okay, go for Brett. Yeah, you know, like, I want to thank Seve first and foremost masker providing the bike. Oh, are they calling me Matt combs for doing a great job out there and being smart and being stapler supporting me and then leaving PB brown pow pow Stortz Gio, thank you to Matt Philbrick who helped me get down there it was proven. And Brett Brad pace and Christian Cade and Max Eddie senior like they both killed it on helping me like, get my bike ready for the last day of free running because it wasn't running too well. It's making noises and stuff. I was needed to toss out they took over they told me to go go to bed. So thank you guys and wrong. Yeah, it would have been just the whole crew that supported the team. There's a lot of good people on the team. Hey, we had a comment come in from drabness at max Matt at Bryce and verse the kids who went in Baja are up here that's actually unfair if you do that up here right. So we got to do is somewhere where you guys haven't gone like let's go to Antarctic or something put like ice racing tires. Got them? Yeah, no. I don't know. We've got all two wheels. You know, I've I've been racing with the kids the beginning of the year, and I know Connors got me a couple of times, and Matt's got me but I think I've got maybe Matt when he broke but it's it's, uh, you know, for for? I'm 40 but I don't feel 40 I felt like I'm early 30 still so I think that'd be a good race. We'll have to line up. That would be pretty cool to have a little battle with all the Barstow guys. You see you guys all out there just ripping. And so Connor in Matthew wants to throw a shout out real quick and then I have one final question for all you guys. Well, my Bryce Malcolm Matt pretty much covered everyone else but for me and Matt. Craig Scanlon he decided to help us out in he covered all of our pre rent expenses for the week and not that's huge down there. You know, because you know, you're eating tacos every night you don't you don't you don't make your own food down there. Really. You're eating tacos every night. You know, a lot of gas money for the for the chase vehicles and And the bikes for both of us, you know, so one of my grandpa's good friends his name's Ron, I raced. He's one Nia yz 250 to race at some grand priests in the states here. And he, he also helped us with the periodic expenses. And those guys are they make or break it for us, you know? And we want to you can't go down there without it, you know? Yeah, totally. All right. So, do you guys have a taco count how many tacos were eaten? Oh man, well, well all start with for lunch. I have a coke and for tacos for lunch and also the same for dinner. So the big tacos though. Okay, so tacos, love everything. So I'm assuming that Connor over the week at least a 69 Tacos, and you guys probably at least equal to him for the rest of them. Right? I'm doing well. So now. I know that it nobody to just the local stations all the time. All right. Well, I appreciate you guys coming on. And obviously you guys did a fantastic job down there. There's one more step on the podium that you guys have to work your way up to. But that gives you guys all drive to be better next time, right? So can't wait to see you guys actually, what's the next race? Um, probably the 1000. That takes a lot of preparation. So we can't wait to see you guys down there. Appreciate everything. guys. You guys did a fantastic job. Like I said, so I can't wait to see you guys soon. All right. Thank you. 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